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To: JRandomFreeper

“Your contention is that animals don’t want to kill each other naturally. You said that. “

No, the discussion was about the existence or not of a natural resistance among the members of one’s species to kill another.

There is, according to Grossman:

“In conflict situations this primitive, midbrain processing can be observed in the existence of a powerful resistance to killing one’s own kind. Animals with antlers and horns slam together in a relatively harmless head-to-head fashion, and piranha fight their own kind with flicks of the tail, but against any other species these creatures unleash their horns and teeth without restraint. This is an ESSENTIAL SURVIVAL MECHANISM which prevents a species from destroying itself during territorial and mating rituals.”


241 posted on 01/04/2013 9:24:57 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Katechon
“In conflict situations this primitive, midbrain processing can be observed in the existence of a powerful resistance to killing one’s own kind.

Grossman is flat-out wrong.

First thing a male lion does when taking over a pride is kill the lion cubs. Because he didn't father them.

Every single time.

It's documented.

I've watched squirrels kill other squirrels.

He's just frigging wrong.

/johnny

244 posted on 01/04/2013 9:30:18 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Katechon
Animals with antlers and horns slam together in a relatively harmless head-to-head fashion,

I just saw that. Next time you are in Canada, ask if anyone has seen moose horns attached to skeletons, locked in battle to the death. I've seen those when I was in Alaska.

And bovine bulls? I had to take one to slaughter because the crazy angus broke his hip when the 3 of them were slugging it out. I shared a pasture with 3 bulls for about a year. Then there were 2.

Your Disney view of the world doesn't work.

Not for mammals, not for birds (watch chickens, sometime, for a year or two), not fish, certainly not for reptiles.

/johnny

252 posted on 01/04/2013 9:45:06 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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