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To: Katechon
1) Television has nothing to do with TRAINING for the act of murder, like FPS videogames do.

How do you know? Can you cite any data that shows television and movie violence have no effect on whether someone commits acts of violence or how effective they are at it?

Neither me nor Grossman are for gun control. Where do you take that from?

I didn't say you were. I was using Sharpton as an example of your mindset and the intellectual bankruptcy of your position.

Seriously, if we banned FPS games and Chicago still had 2,400 shootings a year, what would you want to do to solve the problem?

176 posted on 01/04/2013 8:01:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The problem of Chicago, as far as I could tell (I’m not specialist) is related to drug gangs first and foremost.

Of course, the fatherless kids, the culture of entitlements, etc, don’t help. But in Chicago per se (in some very specific districts) there is permanent civil war among druglords.

My solution would be to legalize this drug (in order to offer another way of resolving conflicts than the gun: such as Courts of Justice).


179 posted on 01/04/2013 8:06:08 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Mr. Silverback

1) Television has nothing to do with TRAINING for the act of murder, like FPS videogames do.
How do you know that television has nothing to do with TRAINING for the act of murder, like FPS videogames do.

Because Grossman is talking about the act of killing another human being.
The training began with bullseyes, then pop-up humanoid silhouettes, then video-games.

With Televsion, you don’t do anything to influence what is happening on the TV screen. But you do with videogames.


182 posted on 01/04/2013 8:11:04 PM PST by Katechon
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To: Mr. Silverback

1) Television has nothing to do with TRAINING for the act of murder, like FPS videogames do.
How do you know that television has nothing to do with TRAINING for the act of murder, like FPS videogames do.

Because Grossman is talking about the act of killing another human being.
The training began with bullseyes, then pop-up humanoid silhouettes, then video-games.

With Televsion, you don’t do anything to influence what is happening on the TV screen. But you do with videogames.


183 posted on 01/04/2013 8:11:04 PM PST by Katechon
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