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To: neverdem
The main thing I see in this thread is a recurrent theme.
A false dichotomy. Either ‘this’ OR ‘that’.
For the anti-God types: There is far that we don't even have the ability to conceive of on the frontier of science than we know now. So how about using the good old fashioned monosyllabic word ‘God’ for some of those. (and if you have any doubts about how much we know, ask any quantum physicist about conditions RIGHT BEFORE the Big Bang)

And for the devout Bible-Thumpers out there: Have you actually ever READ the Bible? What version? Did you bother to learn another historic language to gain perspective? Do you know the histories of the people who rewrote it under a Roman ‘Imperator’? Do you know WHY Constantine had it rewritten?
I am not a scholar of any sort, Biblical or otherwise. But I try to pay attention.
Correct Perception is a term you all should look into.
The concept that there are a number of levels of truth, each as accurate as the previous or next, but each in alignment with how you are able to ask the question.

Darwin had a working hypothesis. A hypothesis is useful as long as it is ‘useful’. It is not meant as a final answer. Even something as simple as ‘water is wet’ is not universally accurate all the time. At what temperature? At what atmospheric pressure? At what scale (size wise)?

From those with a theological bent, you are confounded by your own doctrines; Why couldn't there be evolution? ALL things are within God's purview.

For those who think a belief in something greater is evidence of mental retardation, perhaps you should look in the mirror. Your arrogance and hubris borders on self-destructive. Is it indicative of a pathological fear, of the unknown, of the dark, of something?

19 posted on 01/01/2013 1:32:10 PM PST by jim999
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To: jim999

“From those with a theological bent, you are confounded by your own doctrines; Why couldn’t there be evolution? ALL things are within God’s purview.”

Ha! I’ve never heard that argument before, so I give you points for originality. It does kind of make sense, since it would basically take a miracle for Darwin’s just-so story to happen in reality, according to what we know of biology, physics, and genetics.

So, yes, all things are possible with God, and He could have miraculously caused evolution to happen. However, if we are examining it scientifically, we must exclude the possibility of miracles from our assessment, and conclude that it’s not a very plausible explanation, scientifically. The only reason it is accepted is that, as implausible as it is, science hasn’t come up with a more plausible theory, because anything more plausible would seem to have to posit a supernatural cause of some form, which science does not do. They’ve trapped themselves into defending an unsatisfactory theory because that theory is the natural consequence of their a prior assumptions.


22 posted on 01/01/2013 2:01:11 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: jim999

With all things being within the purview of God, why aren’t all beliefs/religions valid? This would certainly be within His purview, wouldnt it?


44 posted on 01/02/2013 3:34:31 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: jim999

With all things being within the purview of God, why aren’t all beliefs/religions valid? This would certainly be within His purview, wouldnt it?


45 posted on 01/02/2013 3:34:46 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to, otherwise, things would be different.")
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