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“How would they do this? What about all the illegal guns? Will the govt confiscate them? Would the feds search house by house?
I cant see that happening.”

I posted this yesterday on another thread:
From the viewpoint of the totalitarians, you don’t attempt to “come in waves”. You make a few examples first.

I would expect one of the first “examples” in confiscation to resemble something akin to the Little Rock school desegregation back in the 1950’s — i.e., government troops in full force at a specific location.

For the guns, the feds will select a southern city somewhere, but not a large one. Then they’ll appear in force with carefully chosen cadres of soldiers. The units will be “pre-filtered” so that none of the troops will be “from the south”, and many of them will be composed of (ahem…) “his people”. They will secure the local and regional gunshops first, so that they have access to sales records. With that info available to them, they’ll start “working the lists” and go house-to-house. Whatever force they are met with, they’ll respond with superior force. If they have to resort to a few “Wacos” or “Move-Ons”, well, so be it.

And they’ll be sure that the sycophant media is everywhere they are, with the video cameras on.

The examples will be made — enough of them so that every gun owner will understand what results are assured if they choose to resist at a personal level.

If it gets that far, “individual resistance” is going to become a very futile act — the equivalent of monks resorting to self-immolation. The only effective resistance will be group action, and even small groups of civilian resistors may make little impact. By that point, perhaps what will be needed is the action of entire states, supported by the legislatures of those states along with the National Guard units of those states acting under the authority of the governors.

Some will reply, “nonsense, won’t happen”. But the nation is clearly dividing, just as it did in 1861. What did Mr. Lincoln say about a “house divided”?

Ah, but there will be no more free Wacos, that is what’s changed. This has been building for quite longer than the past four years. There was plenty of tension in the 1990’s after certain events, and the White House had several brain storming sessions on the realities of rash behavior.
Whether you believe it or not, at the first slaughter of innocents protecting their unalienable rights, there will be just war cause. It doesn’t matter if millions of Americans stand by and watch in fear or stoicism. There will be a minority who will act. And they are everywhere. In the police at all levels, military, and in government agencies. Why do you think ATF snitches were talking to militia and not other law enforcement or hack media? This is how Fast and Furious broke.

While people make skidmarks in their pants worried about how the big behemoth government is making lists and data mining with their many watch programs (yet couldn’t piece together Phoenix memo prior to 9/11), the entire blogosphere, commenting forums are full of rants, some overt threats that in my view are overwhelming to handle. The government doesn’t have the resources to track all these people down. On facebook alone, when IN supreme court ruled police can not be stopped even doing an illegal entry, and a county police chief was talking about house to house searches, the language got hot by the thousands, and these people are posting as themselves! In addition, there is a flip side to the internet and it’s open source intel on nationally known figures, like ones who hate the Constitution for example. In detail.

I’m not discounting the use of drones or united operation using all resources for a specific target. Usually after the fact. But let’s look at martial law situation. There’s simply not enough police or military to clamp the country down, it’s already been war gamed online. They would need to bring in foreign troops. And the numbers of guns and gun owners in the country has gone up, particularly among women.

Effective resistance is individuals with no command structure acting independently — guerrilla warfare, being the “grey man”, deception, creating shock, fear, and demoralizing the enemy. News flash at 9: “Billy Bob is apparently missing... they were last seen...administration officials have no comment...” Now you see ‘em, now you don’t. Might give some people pause don’t you think?

““individual resistance” is going to become a very futile act — the equivalent of monks resorting to self-immolation.”

You couldn’t be more wrong. The monks brought down the Diem government very quickly. And do you know what started the Arab Spring, a vegetable stand owner driven out of business by new regulations self-immolated.

As for individual action, thats the best of all. It’s what keeps the totalitarians awake at night. You can infiltrate and roll up organizations. But leaderless resistance is extremely hard to fight.
ANd remember, it was invented here, for use after a communinst takeover. Interesting.