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To: i_robot73; sickoflibs; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3
Based on what the ‘leadership’ has done recently (folding like a lawn chair on every damn thing coming down the pipe), exactly how ‘banding together’ would have been any different??

The GOP would still not have the Senate and these ‘problems’ would still be on their plate. So nothing would still get ‘done’, the media would still be blaming the GOP and the GOP would still be bending over for their ankles ‘cuz they were called bad names. There’s no real fight to reduce ANY part of gov’t coming from the GOP; no real plan (oh, the 5/10yr. models...SURE).

I’ll even contend, w/ the CT shooting, Mitt would be on the forefront for new gun laws and possibly even another AWB bill. So, again, what difference would it have been??

Hillary is ready to run in 2016. If the GOP nominates another loser for POTUS the US could be ruled by a "Government Party," Like Mexico's PRI (the oxymoronic name in English would be the "Institutional Revolutionary Party"), which ruled Mexico for 71 years.

But even a talented conservative might not be able to overcome the ignorance/apathy of voters. Especially after amnesty.

The mood at FR has changed since just before the election.

106 posted on 12/30/2012 2:27:16 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Seems to me, most here are ready to tow the party line...if they ‘have’ to again *spit*. There is no indication of any change coming, no infighting to let the base (and those of us outside) know that something better is trying to come along.

No, most will still belittle us as ‘fringe’ and ‘kooks’, while the Left consolidates their power. They want to work within the party (again, again, again) cause 3rd party could take YEARS to develop (the same BS the Left uses against drilling at home).

When (IF) the GOP ever do the right thing again, I’ll gladly vote for ‘em, but I’m laying down my convictions because the D.C. crowd says it’s the best they got...Because that’s worked so well during these $$ talks, right?


107 posted on 12/30/2012 6:49:15 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; i_robot73; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale
RE :”The mood at FR has changed since just before the election.”

That's a hell of a understatement.
I was pessimistic before the election (unlike many here) and even more so now.

On FNS the panel was saying that Republicans will lose this fight on taxes but will force O (Desm) to cut spending by using the debt limit. I am just repeating what I heard, I have no opinion on this yet.

But the most interesting was on ABC This Week, a couple on there were said that Obama’s goal since the election is/was to fuel the fire of a Republican civil war, and so far he is successful.

This is exactly what I have been posting here for weeks. That is why he calls his tax demand BOTH a tax cut (playing voters) and a tax increase (stroking the R flames) so Rs hold out for a while so when they finally give him what he demands he will look like a hero, and Republicans stupid, and then they will implode.

I may have been hasty saying Pelosi will take the House though, redistricting may make that difficult for them to do that as Impy pointed out to me. But they can still pick up seats in the Senate.

On one of the shows they said Biden will run again for POTUS.

108 posted on 12/30/2012 7:36:58 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; i_robot73; NFHale; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3
RE :”But even a talented conservative might not be able to overcome the ignorance/apathy of voters. Especially after amnesty. “

We have a hell of a lot of fools on the Rs side, first the two phony POTUS runs last year duped way too many (I TOLD YOU THEY WERE NOT RUNNING), then the birth control/rape comments, the slut comment, and the final straw was the 47% tape/comment by Mitt.
Not only were these a great way to re-elect O but how many “Right on. This is exactly what voters want to hear” comments did you read? And all the 'the polls showing Romney is losing are rigged' comments?

Its scary!

109 posted on 12/30/2012 7:49:39 PM PST by sickoflibs (Dems go for results, meaning winning. Rs go for symbolism and whining about losing.)
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