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To: nonsporting

I don’t have any kids, and I’m not going to have any kids.

I am efforting to defend and protect the treasure of other people whom are apparently to dumb and self centered to protect their own.

Teachers are not police.

Older students are not police.

You solutions are half assed.

Good like defending against an AR with a tactical folding knife and pepper spray.


74 posted on 12/21/2012 12:08:36 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Citizens don’t need to be police to be effective. Armed citizens defend themselves and third parties every day. A teacher or adminstrator who is competent enough to carry a concealed weapon can defend himself. Others may benefit.

One fights with the weapons he has. I would prefer a firearm. At the ranges within a school room (5 to 15 yards) a handgun is adequate against an AR. The longer sight radius of a rifle gives it an advantage both in aiming precision and energy at range, advantages which are negated in the confines of a classroom. Further, most states restrict handgun ownership to those at least 18 yoa. The pepper spray and knife are available to those so restricted by law from more effective weaponry. Some pepper sprays such as Cold Steel’s Inferno (a targetable foam) can be effective at 5 yards (15 feet). It may be enough to disable the shooter. Even misting pepper sprays can be used as an area denial agent. These tools give defenders options.

However, all of these are unavailable unless one is willing to break the law. Schools are a shining example of the toxic fruit of civilian disarmament, otherwise known as gun control. The state solution is a security officer in every school, when funding permits. A readily available solution which will not cost the state one penny nor need a heavy handed bureaucracy to adminstrate it, is the armed citizen. It’s available tomorrow, if the law would allow it.

Finally your insulting comments are uncalled for. Do you have any defensive firearm training? I have 20 years of private firearms training— defensive handgun, social shotgun, tactical carbine, precision rifle, street survival, tactics and techniques. I’ve trained with both military and police and know what the more conscientious members are capable of (those who endeavor to go above and beyond what the rank and file are satisfied with). I know that mere citizens are equally capable.

You have no skin in the game—you have no children. Your “efforting to defend and protect the treasure of others” is presumptuous and ill-informed.


92 posted on 12/21/2012 6:49:47 PM PST by nonsporting
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