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To: livius

Agreed.

The constant refrain here of “someone carrying would have stopped this” is quite silly. That’s just speculation, although I’m not against people carrying.

It’s about time we return to the idea of “institutions”.


1,279 posted on 12/14/2012 5:15:15 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

For society to protect there must be people in position (at all times) able and willing to protect society. LE cannot be everywhere at once. Legal carry citizens must take up and fill the voids. Liberals hate this idea because liberals believe this undermines their ability to protect. Of course if one waits on a liberal or LE one could wind up dead, but liberals would rather see you or your loved ones dead and red, than armed and have a chance. They prove it over and over again by saying it is the fault of the gun and not the fault of the shooter or the fact that if someone had been properly trained and in the area, this could have probably ended differently and lives may have possibly been saved. Yes, liberals would rather you be dead and red. This will become more about control of the law-abiding than about stopping this type of behavior. More gun free zones. More laws to make it more difficult to protect oneself and ones family. Never a law to make it more difficult for the criminal or the terrorist. That would be unjust or unfair per our elected.


1,285 posted on 12/14/2012 5:24:25 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Did the school have security people in the school prior to the attack?

If not, then that would mean that anybody could walk into the building before lockdown time.

This kid had to stand out like a sore thumb. Black paramilitary style clothes, too young looking to be a parent. Anybody taking a second look would have known that he was out of place.

It is great to have security protocols in place, but everyone has to take them seriously and respect them. I have a feeling that something went seriously wrong with the SOPs that were supposed to be in place. I hope somebody did not stop by the cafeteria in an attempt to score another donut or something.

I have seen a lot of talk on the web this evening about what if teachers had been packing. It may not have saved many lives, but if everybody knew that every adult in a school building was packing, then there would be far fewer of these episodes.


1,286 posted on 12/14/2012 5:26:08 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I guess that’s why there are so many mass murders at gun ranges.


1,302 posted on 12/14/2012 6:03:07 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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