What you said couldn’t be farther from the truth.
I have never advocated gay marriage in any way shape or form.
It is a historic fact that any civilization that embraces deviant behavior as the norm they have collapsed.
That is where America is.
There are people here that still believe the GOP actually holds these values as important. Unfortunately the actions of the GOP clearly do not demonstrate that.
We are in a position where the federal government is gone for conservatives. So we can keep trying to fight there and 100% for sure lose and end up with no options or we can pick a smarter path to wage the battle.
It was xzins who took this down the rabbit hole not me. I only responded.
I have absolutely not faith in the GOP to do anything that would support any conservative values.
Saying that it should be up to the states to decide if something is legal or not is closely akin to advocating it.
There are people here that still believe the GOP actually holds these values as important. Unfortunately the actions of the GOP clearly do not demonstrate that.
The fact is that the GOP has been overrun by RINOs and libertarians.
We are in a position where the federal government is gone for conservatives. So we can keep trying to fight there and 100% for sure lose and end up with no options or we can pick a smarter path to wage the battle.
Again, this sounds just like the Whig talking points of the early 19th Century. They too wanted to make conservative issues a "states right" deal, look where it got them.
It was xzins who took this down the rabbit hole not me. I only responded.
You are all over this thread advocating that the states be allowed to decide how they define marriage and you have yet to address any of the federal consequences of it.
12/11/12
Glenn Beck appeared on Penn Jillette’s talk show to talk about the Republican Party and same-sex marriage.
Said Beck:
“Let me take the pro-gay marriage people and the religious people — I believe that there is a connecting dot there that nobody is looking at, and that’s the Constitution...The question is not whether gay people should be married or not. The question is why is the government involved in our marriage?”
He added: “What we need to do, I think, as people who believe in the Constitution, is to start looking for allies who believe in the Constitution and expand our own horizon...We would have the ultimate big tent.”
I eventually got around to saying homosexuality is dangerous (as anything unnatural is) and that's why it's been prohibited by most societies for thousands of years.
You eventually got around to calling me a Nazi for believing that.
Until recently, the U.S. too had regulations that barred HIV-infected foreign nationals from receiving a visa to enter the country. President Obama lifted them in January 2010.The American restrictions were introduced in 1987, when Congress directed the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to add HIV to its list of diseases of public health significance. Foreign nationals were tested for the immunodeficiency virus during medical screening by U.S. immigration. http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/11/news/companies/ceos-hiv-travel-restrictions-ceos/index.html
In the above quote we have Nazis in 1987, The Reagan Administration, deciding that HIV (at the time, "The Gay Plague") should require individual testing for HIV before entering our country. You can see that lasted all the way up to 2 years ago, when it was lifted by pro-homosexual marriage, Barack Obama.
Now, as I see it:
I am siding with Reagan.
And you are siding with Obama.
You get to decide for yourself which one is the socialist (National Socialist?)