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To: Graybeard58

What I am saying here is this: natural born Citizen is not a statutory citizenship, where citizenship is defined by a legal statute. Hence the link to a government immigration site.

Natural born Citizenship is ‘natural law’. It means there is no question concerning the U.S. citizenship of a person born in the U.S.A. of parents who are both U.S. citizens, and thus no legal statute is required.

Native born plus citizen parents is required for a candidate’s eligibility to be President (Vice President).

Anyone in the line of succession NOT a natural born Citizen would have to be passed over in the succession.

For example, people born in unincorporated U.S. territories, such as Puerto Rico and the Panama Canal Zone, are considered statutory U.S. citizens and NOT natural born Citizens. In other words, the U.S. “Constitution does not follow the flag”.


72 posted on 12/11/2012 5:56:37 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Good morning, SatinDoll.

This may interest you...I was born in the Canal Zone:

“statutory U.S. citizens”

“Before the passage of the Panama Canal Treaties in 1977, the Panama Canal Zone had been a U.S. possession, with some families of “natural born” American citizens permanently residing there for generations. In order to protect the “natural born,” status of anyone born in the Zone to at least one citizen-parent, Congress passed 8 USC 1403. Experts cite other legislation providing the same “protection” to the offspring of “natural born” American citizens in the U.S. territories.”

“8 USC 1403”

“(a)Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

“(b)Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.”

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As an aside, please remember McCain was born in Colón, Republic of Panama, which makes him a dual citizen.

By the way, I like reading your posts. Thank you.


81 posted on 12/11/2012 7:12:05 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: SatinDoll

You are wrong.
You have absolutely no understanding of the law or of history.
Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the moment of birth and nothing else.


91 posted on 12/11/2012 7:56:20 AM PST by Kansas58
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