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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; acapesket
Nope, Their ‘ principled ’ argument is “No tax cuts for thee if there is none for me”, There is NO principle in this. That is just pure evil envy.

i could give em the benefit of the doubt on whether its priciple or envy...but it really is stupid to set themseves up for total failure/capitulation...

unless the end game is really just to build a lil suspense to keep the audience buyin popcorn and action figures of the kabuki players on stage...

the votes arent there to save the 2%...so take what you can get on principle, and immediately push the next vote to save the 2% and record the 'NO' votes...

but again, its just theatre...

67 posted on 12/08/2012 5:41:00 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; acapesket
RE :” i could give em the benefit of the doubt on whether its priciple or envy...but it really is stupid to set themseves up for total failure/capitulation...
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the votes arent there to save the 2%...so take what you can get on principle, and immediately push the next vote to save the 2% and record the ‘NO’ votes”

Obama made a major issue of raising those taxes, Republicans put up Romney to be the poster-boy for lowering those taxes. I know, how could that POSSIBLY go wrong? Well it did.
So O got re-elected and he picked up seats in both houses, especially in the Senate where Republicans were set to win seats.

So now the taxes are set to go up automatically. (as they were two years ago.) So there's been few articles posted here saying that the House Rs should refuse to extend the tax cuts to the 98% (and its really everyone's fractional income OVER $250K) in separate bill, and that 98% voters (of the 53%+) will blame Obama for their tax increases and think it was him that did it.

And these threads are actually getting comments claiming that they REALLY believe that Obama will get blamed.
If they were making an HONEST argument that would be one thing, but claiming that O will get the blame for Republicans holding back is not the least bit honest.

"The media is in Obama's pocket so if Republicans hold firm on (against cutting those) taxes the voters will blame Obama for their taxes going up because they all (voters) are Rush fans and that is what he will say happened and they will believe him"

72 posted on 12/08/2012 9:14:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Dems know how to win. Rs know how to whine.)
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; acapesket
i could give em the benefit of the doubt on whether its priciple or envy...but it really is stupid to set themseves up for total failure/capitulation...

Stupidity or maybe ignorance. It's ironic. I think taxes are going up for some income levels. Obama wants to use the "rates vs.loopholes" argument (among other things) to divide the GOP and destroy it once and for all.

74 posted on 12/08/2012 8:51:17 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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