Posted on 12/01/2012 6:50:41 AM PST by blam
Why Asian Americans Voted So Overwhelmingly For Obama
Menzie Chinn, Econbrowser
Dec. 1, 2012, 7:18 AM
Menzie Chinn is a professor at Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs
Noahpinion asks: “[W]hy did Asian-Americans break so strongly for Obama? I provide my (slightly different) answer.
As Noahpinion observes, given Asian American’s higher than average income, the Romney-esque argument that the group is one of “takers” not “makers” cannot be correct (of course, there is little empirical content to this particular thesis, anyway). 2012 was not an isolated event, by the way.
I am not a political scientist, and so am not particularly well-qualified to provide a proper quantitative analysis. But I can at least relay some thoughts based upon my own experiences on why some Chinese-Americans of a certain background might not feel comfortable with the Republican party. First, consider the composition of the party leadership, as represented by the new House Committee Chairmen:
Source: DailyKos.
Of course, it’s the policies that matter more. And here, I think the key factor of importance to Chinese-Americans is pragmatism (the generation of my parents -- who came from China -- saw enough rigid, dogmatic ideology run amok, thank you very much), and a belief in progress by way of science and technology. In this vein, Richard Posner speculates that Asian-Americans lean toward the Democratic party, despite the low-tax rate stance of the Republican party, because:
... being well educated as a group, Asian Americans may be disturbed by the hostility to science, particularly evolutionary biology, which Republican supporters and politicians have exhibited of late.
Charles Murray tries to explain Asian-American voting as pure mis-apprehension, to wit:
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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
There is no hostility to science in the Republican Party this is such a blatant lie. The conservative movement is loyal to facts and not hype. Global warming is hype. It is motivated by billions of dollars of grant money and socialist government control, not science. I thought we were on the way to exposing that, but there is a resurgence.
Asians voted for Obama for the same grab bag of reasons as the other Dem. constituencies. The warmth of Mama Obama’s vast milk filled breasts and the cheap thrill of ‘virtue blather’.
If this is true, then Asians are not nearly as smart as assumed. When the government robs you of most of your money and your freedom, creation vs. evolution will be the last thing on your mind.
The only Chinese here are communists that were allowed to leave their country and are here only to shift communism here.
It is why the voted for democrats.
I can’t figure out how they pulled it off, but ANYTHING a liberal just happens to spit out of their mouth is instant fact.
Add to this that ANYTHING anyone ONE PERSON, who happens to claim they are conservative says is instantly added as part of our permanent platform, while the same doesn’t apply to them.
If a looney toon on the right says something , we’ll then that’s how all conservatives feel and is central to our core.
If a looney toon (i know they all are....lol) on the left says something, the same does not happen. For example; the PETA people or environmental terrorists, global warming fraudsters.
In the end, as so many of us say and so many posts point out. We have no control over the MSM narrative and overwhelmingly most voters and young people only feel what is “right” is the values espoused by CNN or the latest immoral sitcom characters’ on t.v. universe.
I’m in the camp right now that says we don’t have any next move, I’m hoping someone comes up with something effective, but sometimes you need to recognize defeat =(.
Thanks. That horrific visual has just ruined my next three meals. :)
Perception is everything, and right now Asians perceive Republicans as racist, nativist, and anti-science. The GOPe has done exactly nothing to counter this largely false Democrat caricature, so the party is reaping the rewards of its inaction.
I think this is a load of crud. I am 1/2 Japanese via my mother's side. Both of my parents live in Riverside County, CA. Dad is in the aerospace business and (luckily) is doing very well for himself.
My entire family is Republican. Always has been and always will be. We weren't raised to be stupid and lazy.
After the election, my mother was extremely upset. She knew Romney could not win CA, but was hopeful he would take the electoral college votes and win the presidency.
She told me that she listens to local "asian" radio stations and reads the "asian" papers (she is multilingual and can understand both Korean and Japanese). Anyhow, she said that if anyone tells you that Asian's voted for Obama because of anything other than handouts, don't believe a word of it. The local Asian media is just as bad as the MSM. She said there are so many tax cheats and people ripping off the system (SSI, illegal immigration), that of course they will vote Dem. They are afraid of having their candy taken away. The cheating is rampant in the Asian community in many places. She is resentful and angry that these people have no integrity or honor. She's "old school" and believes in honesty and hard work. Anything else makes one "lose face".
“Source: DailyKos”
And, so much for that.
The idea that the Demagogic Party is *not* mired in its own inflexible idealogy and is instead pragmatic and science-oriented is ridiculous.
Thanks blam.
Sick of hearing it... sorry. Every hyphenated American ethnic group voted for Obama. They are simply not Americans. They are simply divisive folks, whose sole identity is wrapped in their divided nature. Like attracts like.. A divided person, whether it be ethnic, or pathological will vote for the divider in chief. True Americans who shed their diversity for freedom and liberty for all are the only ones opposing Obama. We are definitely in the minority. Historically, diversity and division is the downfall of any culture. Even ours. Becoming liberals is the only tactic left for Republicans and I will have no part in it. /rant
Sick of hearing it... sorry. Every hyphenated American ethnic group voted for Obama. They are simply not Americans. They are simply divisive folks, whose sole identity is wrapped in their divided nature. Like attracts like.. A divided person, whether it be ethnic, or pathological will vote for the divider in chief. True Americans who shed their diversity for freedom and liberty for all are the only ones opposing Obama. We are definitely in the minority. Historically, diversity and division is the downfall of any culture. Even ours. Becoming liberals is the only tactic left for Republicans and I will have no part in it. /rant
It’s way beyond time to adjust our immigration policy.
I find nothing in the constitution that requires us to destroy our country by importing masses of people who are not freedom lovers. There are plenty of marxist paradises to go to if that’s what immigrants desire without importing them here to likewise turn our republic into just another socialist cesspool.
Immmigration: (i) very low numbers, and (ii) very selective candidates who have unique skills we want and who yearn for freedom from government and are self reliant.
Let’s face facts here. Everyone who voted Obama did it because it is cool to hqte white men these days. White heterosexual men are the new n-words......everyone hates us. It’s almost liberating to come to terms with that.
I am white. I’m a pig, I’m scum and I don’t deserve to be on this planet. Thatis the message the left sends to me everyday of my life.
My brothers wife is Asian (Chinese by way of Jamaica and then Canada) and can assure you that none of her family voted for Obama. And, doubt that any Asian-American who came from former British territories in the Caribbean would vote Obama (most were run off by Blacks when the Brits granted independence to the Caribbean islands)
Since Asian-Americans come from all different backgrounds and naions....it is really hard to believe 70% of Asians voted for Obama. Most Asians I know are hard-working and sacrifice to provide for their families....they would not support Obama
The problem is they’re calling Muzzies, Arabs and everyone else from East, West, Central Asia “Asians.”
Asians hate whitey. Simple as that.
Unfortunately it is not a lie. THIS is a very big challenge for conservatives because we have been tarred with it, and not entirely unfairly so. You see it here. Almost every SunkenCiv thread or Asronomy Picture of the Day thread gets spammed by a strong anti-science crowd.
I am a scientist and a conservative, and I can tell you that conservatives have lost that argument. Virtually every scientist I know is convinced that conservatives are anti-science. You cannot change the perception by saying it is not so. There is a lot of hard work to do to dispel that view.
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