Posted on 12/01/2012 6:50:41 AM PST by blam
Why Asian Americans Voted So Overwhelmingly For Obama
Menzie Chinn, Econbrowser
Dec. 1, 2012, 7:18 AM
Menzie Chinn is a professor at Robert M. La Follette School of Public Affairs
Noahpinion asks: “[W]hy did Asian-Americans break so strongly for Obama? I provide my (slightly different) answer.
As Noahpinion observes, given Asian American’s higher than average income, the Romney-esque argument that the group is one of “takers” not “makers” cannot be correct (of course, there is little empirical content to this particular thesis, anyway). 2012 was not an isolated event, by the way.
I am not a political scientist, and so am not particularly well-qualified to provide a proper quantitative analysis. But I can at least relay some thoughts based upon my own experiences on why some Chinese-Americans of a certain background might not feel comfortable with the Republican party. First, consider the composition of the party leadership, as represented by the new House Committee Chairmen:
Source: DailyKos.
Of course, it’s the policies that matter more. And here, I think the key factor of importance to Chinese-Americans is pragmatism (the generation of my parents -- who came from China -- saw enough rigid, dogmatic ideology run amok, thank you very much), and a belief in progress by way of science and technology. In this vein, Richard Posner speculates that Asian-Americans lean toward the Democratic party, despite the low-tax rate stance of the Republican party, because:
... being well educated as a group, Asian Americans may be disturbed by the hostility to science, particularly evolutionary biology, which Republican supporters and politicians have exhibited of late.
Charles Murray tries to explain Asian-American voting as pure mis-apprehension, to wit:
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This is characteristic of the analysis resulting from meaningless data. You have no way of knowing how Asians voted. The old saw “Garbage in, garbage out” applies. This is not an easy concept to explain, even to bright people, who don't understand our election systems. Few understand our election systems, and that is intentional. Our voting system is entirely unverifiable. Knowing that, would you expect the SEIU, which is responsible for (you notice I didn't say “counts”) a large percentage of the the votes reported in the US, would you expect the SEIU to report votes for a candidate, or candidates, who promised to reduce the numbers of Government/SEIU positions?
The simple, but not at all obvious, fact is that when we did away with local precinct counts and paper ballots, we eliminated what is called an audit trail from our voting process. When data are handled by anyone, let alone people with a fiduciary interest in the outcome, in private, the data must be presumed contaminated. That is why OJ Simpson had to be acquitted. With half the physical data collected by each of two criminologists, who sign and date every sample they collect, but only evidence with one criminologist is presented by the prosecution, none of those data were admissible. You couldn't say with certainty that it was corrupted, but you had to assume that, because there was no baseline count, and no check of any sort to support how ballots were marked. When votes are not counted under the purview of local precinct workers, volunteers, from both parties, before the ballots leave the room where they were marked, those votes cannot be trusted. When the SEIU maintains computers, or computerized machinery, machinery which itself conceals how the data are processed, the data are useless, except to politicians, who use the presumed results to redistribute the wealth of a society.
Our current president spent several years as a trainer for Project Vote, a division of Acorn. Our voting, and all the analysis about why Asians, or why Jews, or why 140% of registered blacks, is just nonsense. Without reliable elections we are watching a transition to socialist dictatorship, using the misplaced trust of a naive electorate. With the SEIU now in place in the electoral process, voting is pointless. There is no audit trail. There is no way of proving anything. Anyone can report “exit polls”, but few who actually perform them want to report results that appear so inconsistent with the reported numbers. Those numbers are garbage, and are being used to further divide ethnic groups.
How could anyone acquire data confirming Asian voting patterns? Having some familiarity with Asians, especially, but not exclusively, immigrant Chinese, they are loath to discuss political choices with anyone. Such careless talk sent their parents to camps, or to their deaths. Those controlling the votes reported from precincts, and not wanting their manipulations to be too obvious, used Asian precincts for just that reason.
There are lots of reason for claiming 69% of Jews voted for Obama. This helps to separate the foolish Jews who would support the Muslim Brotherhood sponsor in the White House from Christians, who have been among the strongest supporters of Israel. Anyone who knows those Jews who vote in the US elections, often because they maintain homes in both countries, knows that those living in Israel are more secular - liberal - than those living in the US. But Haaretz, Israel's Washington Post equivalent, reported that 89% of those Jews, living in Israel, but voting in US elections, voted for Romney. Phony election data are being used to further divide our citizens.
Elections have gone the way of our major media. Those reporting data probably know the data are nonsense, but are dependent upon the “progressives” controlling two, and perhaps three, branches of our government for their survival. Elections may now be lumped with the major media. The media use fictitious counts to further the ends of the “fair” one party nation we have become.
It is no coincidence that the local counts were ended at the behest of major media, which claimed that local counts denied their audiences the timely reports of elections the public wanted. The public didn't realize that feeding data directly to the media, which is what happened - the five major media outlets owned Voter New Service which actually collated counts fed directly to its offices in New York - ended any pretense at verifiable elections.
Genetically disposed to socialism if not communism.
They also try harder than most to impress their employers with their competence and loyalty. They are trustworthy when promoted to positions of responsibility and usually quite effective being goal oriented and driven to succeed.
They are rarely, if ever the first, second, or even the third ethnecity to feel any need for collective bargaining, but among the first to shop for bargains in their purchasing. They have contributed mightily to our history in many dramatic ways with both their hard labor and their brilliance!!!
yeah, but it is really very sad no matter what the reason
Noone has problem with science or scientists. They have problems with faulty science and scientists who receive millions in grant money to come up with a preconceived result. Because someone is titled a sicnentist, they are not unimpeachable in their opinions. Nor are judges politicians or business man.
No different than other challenges we face. Our party is terrible at pr and thinks if they show up with a big ad push in the final weeks of a campaign, they win. We are losing the pr battle 365 days a year because we let false conceptions take hold.
If we object to Susan Rice it is because she is black. If we support low taxes for the wealthy it is to enrich them. If we object to criminal scientists who manufacture data to prove global warming, we are anti science. It all comes down to changing tactics.
I am not sure how that is even relevant to a political debate. People can believe whatever whey want to believe, and I guarantee there are many people in both parties that share the same beliefs on creationism. Our political discussion should be on government policy. Conservatism has little to nothing to do with religion, other than the importance of basic moral foundation.
Unfortunately, the scientific community is now tarred universally by many as junk science because of the endless faulty data and financial perversions of a percentage. I am sure many are casting aspersions on the whole of them just as republicans all get cast as anti science because of the views of a small number.
The dims go into the strange communities and offer the Asians lots of free stuff. That’s why they vote Democrat.
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