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To: tom h

The only part of your post I agree with is `we must stop the influx first’.
Chavez’s and your `It’s A Wonderful Life’ anecdotes are all very heartwarming, especially this time of the year, but those damned facts are stubborn things, hmmm?

Since the author is pounding on demography, I believe it worth pointing out that Mark Steyn mentions Europe’s experience with importing immigrants to do the work that the children the French, Dutch and English failed to have are (of course) not doing.
They found themselves with substantial, discrete sub-cultures living among them that had figured out the wonders of the welfare state. And they become surly, demanding and militant. By those things I mean: running riot/burning cars, assaulting, intimidating older citizens/women, and actually setting aside portions of the cities as Sharia governed and not subject to the laws of their host countries.
So Ms. Chavez is confusing immigration with human host-parasitism when she mentions legal immigrants and illegals in the same sentence, as she does above.

The remainder of your rose-colored view of the ongoing invasion isn’t at all helpful in addressing the overriding problem that you recognize and that Obama seems determined to solve with a blanket amnesty, if he could to it with a stroke of the pen.
I will say this for the GOP: They held firm in refusing to participate in “comprehensive immigration reform” (SEE: “amnesty”) albeit, as we held their feet to the fire.


39 posted on 11/30/2012 4:25:52 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

I think you need to take your blinders off. I’ve read all of Mark Steyn’s books as well and I’m a big fan of his.

But there is one key distinction. Muslim immigration is not equivalent to Hispanic immigration in one respect — most Hispanics eventually come to love America, and to fight and die for America. That is not happening with Muslim immigrants to America and with Muslim immigrants to the EU countries.

Yeah, our politicians suck and give away freebies to immigrants, encouraging more to come here. Not good. But I don’t think that by 2040 the USA, with it’s significant Hispanic population, is doomed like Europe, with its Muslim population. Hispanics also don’t riot like the Muslims do in Paris.


52 posted on 12/01/2012 12:11:18 AM PST by tom h
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