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Autism rates hit 'epidemic increase' in N.J.
NorthJersey.com ^ | 03.30.12 | Lindy Washburn

Posted on 11/26/2012 9:27:53 AM PST by Coleus

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Many years ago I believe it was Joe Piskopo who did a Saturday Night Live skit on brain damaged people in New Jersey, caused by pollution
New Jersey was not amused.

“I’M FROM JERSEY!...YOU FROM JERSEY?!”


21 posted on 11/26/2012 9:54:23 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Psalm 73

ditto here, except you cannot assume you will outlive your child.

One of the things we pay taxes for as a society s to provide a floor of economic support for disabled citizens, so do not think if it as charity or welfare. Just because some abuse the generosity and civic compact of our society with programs for the disabled, does not mean all do


22 posted on 11/26/2012 9:54:43 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

I wonder about all those ultrasounds they do on pregnant women. It can’t be good for the fetus.


23 posted on 11/26/2012 9:59:55 AM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: silverleaf; Psalm 73

Right, but you darn well know we are not the norm. We have a son with a rare genetic syndrome (missing a chunk of a chromosome) who is almost 7. We have been preparing financially for him since diagnosis.

For those of you who don’t live in our world who are reading this, this is what it means: We are financially responsible for our son for all 70 (or so) years of his life. The burden is immense as he will never live unassisted. Special needs financial planners, lawyers, therapists and doctors are all involved in setting up a special needs trust and a 2nd-to-die (rich) life insurance policy (and 2 $1M policies on me and my wife) and paying for them annually is not easy.

My wife and I make a good living and we already, with 14 years at the LEAST left with our son under our roof, already thinking about housing and living expenses for our son. And I really don’t know if we’ll be able to do it to the extent we’d like to. How can we know if we’ll be able to physically handle him in the future? We certainly won’t be able to forever, that’s for sure.

Private assisted living that we can trust? How many thousands of dollars/month will that be in 15 years?

The lack of adult special needs housing for all incomes is a HUGE problem, no matter how you slice it.


24 posted on 11/26/2012 10:05:17 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: ladyjane

I suppose so but they have been doing them for over 30 years, so why the escalation now?

BTW, the US military has a MUCH higher rate of autisic children than nonmilitary- again suggesting an environmental exposure

Far too many people see their beautiful normal children change suddenly at about age 2 - within days or weeks of multiple vaccines now required.

(Standing by to get flamed by the “It’s not the vaccine” crowd)


25 posted on 11/26/2012 10:06:46 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf
"....a floor of economic support for disabled citizens, so do not think if it as charity or welfare."

I understand that - but my greatest fear is that she would become a ward of the state.
My wife and I accept that we cannot do what others' our age are able to do - most of our life is lived in our home (or church), and tens of thousands (out-of-pocket) have been spent on specialists and therapies.
We are parents - that is the job God has tasked us with - we joyfully serve Him this way.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 10:09:58 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

As I remember, it was a hard hat character who had something like nuclear fallout on his helmet. He would eat sandwiches, oblivious to the consequences of falling poison. I thought it was hilarious.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 10:11:34 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: silverleaf

let me be the first:

IT HAS NOTHING IN THE WORLD TO DO WITH VACCINES.


28 posted on 11/26/2012 10:12:43 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: carlo3b

Not many kids can fake it but that won;t stop doctors, parents, social workers, politicians, and schools from faking a diagnosis so as to steal more money from the rest of us.

A very basic econimix maxium: If you tax something you will get less of it, if you subsidize something you will get more of it. I am not saying the level of autisim will change but the number of diagnosis will increaase.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 10:22:42 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Coleus

Queue in the “Autism, ADHD, Asperber’s Syndrome doesn’t exist. Its just bad parenting.” crowd.

As a parent of one such child, go ahead idiots....make my day.


30 posted on 11/26/2012 10:32:12 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: carlo3b

I have worked with and counseled autistic and Asperger’s Syndrome children. It is a high masculine consciousness that does not merge with the emotional in the thalamus. This is why there are far more boys than girls with this disorder.

I’ve seen this created in children by abusive condescending parents who suppress a very young child’s emotional expression when there is no mother bonding. While this is not the norm, this does happen.

In the children that I did test extensively, I often found a trauma occurred in the mother’s life during the third month of pregnancy when the neural tube is developing.

While these children are very intelligent, they have a difficult time learning in early grades when most children learn emotionally rather than logically. Autistic children learn logically by location of stored memory rather than memory specific.


31 posted on 11/26/2012 10:36:47 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: SpaceBar

As a parent of son afflicted, you and Savage are complete idiots.

If you said that to my face, I’d smack you right in the mouth.


32 posted on 11/26/2012 10:39:25 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

Your son has asperbers, not autism.


33 posted on 11/26/2012 10:44:40 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Asperger’s


34 posted on 11/26/2012 10:47:07 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: MetaThought

Ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 11/26/2012 10:50:42 AM PST by Parmy
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To: MetaThought

Our food is killing us, and a lot of that is caused by changes due to government. It’s that simple. >>

Do you mean GMO foods?


36 posted on 11/26/2012 10:52:40 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Hammerhead

Also, Savage’s 95% number was no doubt innacurate and inflated for shock value, but the fact remains that with powerful drug companies pushing psychiatric drugs like candy, teachers being “trained” to finger kids who are just fidgety or socially awkward, leads to over inflated diagnosis rates. That was his point.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 10:53:49 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Hammerhead
If you said that to my face, I’d smack you right in the mouth.

And if I were a teacher and you said that to my face, I'd have you put on some fancy heterocyclic thingy with lots of attached functional groups, and you too would be part of the statistics.
38 posted on 11/26/2012 10:57:57 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Coleus

IMHO...

Epidemics:

* parents and children eating manufactured food
* parents and children stuffed full of shots, pills, living promiscuous lifestyles that the snews media does not want to publicize, which promote all sorts of conditions and diseases that ultimately effect mothers and children - there is basically no research at all done on this because it would point out the negative effects of the immoral lifestyles that are heavily promoted today
* parents and children doing nothing but watching idiotic tv, internet and video games from birth
* parents and children having weak feminist upbringing from birth, where everything is tolerated, nothing is expected of them in terms of chores, respect, etc; we are allowed to be babies our entire lives today
* billions in PR and marketing of autism
* schools looking for special needs kids to drive up the numbers in order to drive up school costs (alinsky, they may not all be aware of this) and make a big drama about how great schools and teachers are; a crisis which the teacher’s unions can use to extort more money from local municipalities
* I think about 10% to 20% of school budgets pay for costs of special needs; cutting these programs would mean layoffs for those people
* schools pull all students classified as “special needs” out of school performance statistics; they’re just taking the worst performers out of the analysis, which helps to make their performance look much better
* parents seeing the diagnosis as giving them door-to-door service and personal attention for their kids in school at no cost to the parents
* parents seeing the diagnosis as the school system providing free day care for their child that can’t graduate school and would need day care if they stayed at home and both parents worked outside the home; otherwise they have to have one parent stay home and lose income, or pay for day care

Truth:

* some children have actual medical issues
* most probably results from “epidemics” above
* some probably results from congenital conditions and is a medical issue that can not be avoided
* unfortunately, medical industry research is not geared towards fixing the problem, but finding drugs that make the symptoms bearable, so the kids who have real problems are not nearly as well-served as they would be by true research on real cures

Big corps, lawyers always jump on Sales opportunities and try to make the most of them regardless of almost any moral qualms any typical person may have. The more the true Gospel is spread amongst them, the less such reprehensible actions we’ll see.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 11:02:44 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: silverleaf

There may be other causes, but the statistical evidence is strong against the vaccines; they are bad news across the board.


40 posted on 11/26/2012 11:08:20 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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