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To: I cannot think of a name

You’re a “free rider” on the immunization bus. If enough other people get the flu shot, odds are you won’t get the flu. If too few get the flu shot (below a threshold of about 2/3 of the population), the odds of an epidemic jump — and you’re likely to get sick.

Yes, flu shots can cause illness. Too few people treated invite epidemics. Those who get flu shots are “taking one for the team”. Those who don’t are free riders. A lot more deaths result from regular epidemics (to say nothing about pandemics), than from regular flu shots. Those are just the facts — now, what’s the right thing to do?


27 posted on 11/24/2012 1:40:34 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“You’re a “free rider” on the immunization bus.”

And you’re delusional.

I can remember at least twice in the last twenty years trying my best to hold down a nearly empty office, because of the number of people out with the flu - most of whom had flu shots. I guess the old “immunization bus” makes some unplanned stops.


32 posted on 11/24/2012 1:47:38 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Not exactly:

Cochrane review of flu vaccine not as definitive as health officer suggests

Vancouver researcher finds flu shot is linked to H1N1 illness

The 36000 deaths/yr was cited by julie gerberding, former head of the CDC, with no background information given. She's now the head of Merck's vaccine division. No link there. I'm sure. The CDC apparently collects ALL deaths from pneumonia (from any cause) and collates them under 'flu death'. We don't know for sure because the CDC has denied any FOIA requests into the specifics of that particular data set citing (last I heard) 'national security'.

Most of the safety and efficacy studies are run by the makers. Who knows if they're truthful or accurate. Given the general corruption present in the REST of government, it doesn't seem rational to expect that ONE particular governmental agency to be squeaky clean when all the rest of them are filthy.

Then, there's this:

Baxter admits flu product contained live bird flu virus

Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error

Thousand of flu vaccines recalled

41 posted on 11/24/2012 2:02:11 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The right thing is to eat a healthy diet, exercise, and not compromise your immune system, and NOT introduce toxins such as flu shots into your body....JMO....

Where I work we are offered the shots but are able to opt out, which a lot of us do.


100 posted on 11/24/2012 4:03:38 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“Those who get flu shots are “taking one for the team”. Those who don’t are free riders.”

BS, if you take the shot, YOU get your immunity, right? And if one doesn’t take the shot, they only risk themselves and others who made the same decision.
So take the shot if you wish. You are free to mock me if i get a flu. My decision does not harm those who decide to get the shot. Why are you so determined to make us get the same shot you did? How does that benefit YOU?

No matter how much you types talk about “herd immunity”, it all comes down to the individual. If only 5 people in America got the miracle shot, they are protected. Anything beyond self protection is getting into a gray area.

Funny how the health worker community is usually pro-choice, that is until i decide not to get a shot.


106 posted on 11/24/2012 4:08:27 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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