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To: taterjay

“They are today. Or I mean they have in the past few years. Giving you what you think you want is not always a good idea. Unfortunately, America is getting what it wants now.”

It is not geting what you think you want its is what they are convenced by a carrasmaic man is fair & caring.

If “humanity possesses six moral foundations”(as the artical suggest) and they are “care, fairness, liberty, authority, sanctity, and loyalty” And liberals & “centerist” only possess two of them: “care, fairness”.

Then there is no reason anther carasmic man might not convence people some other policy is “caring and fair”.

There is also insodently no reason such a population lacking a value in “authority”, “sanctity”(of institution) or “loyalty”(to a particular man) would necessarily react so badly if their dominate carrasmic leader simply ended up dead.

To put it simply politics in this country will become more cutthroat, as despots & rivals are removed in political competition. unfortunately it is only a matter of time before a new Caesar is anointed.

Pray that the union is not preserved long enough to find out, or be consolidated under such a man. As John Adams pointed out 200 years ago sectionalism is our only defense against such faction.


131 posted on 11/23/2012 7:14:22 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

I think it goes deeper than just charimatic convincing. I think you have to have a majority or close to it to even have a chance of advancing the ideas. Romney was right when he talked about the 47 percent. Either it was 51 or Obama convinced the other 4 percent to follow. This majority was not on the radar 25 years ago. So, I still think the country of America and its’ inhabitants are getting what they WANT. Of course, this assumes no fraud in the election. On either count there are many Americans that want what we are getting, at least for now. Romney got many votes because he was the anti-Obama, but also received many votes for being Obamalite. What America does not want now, at least on the Federal level is a commitment to America’s founding traditional ideals. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness means something much different for the 51 percent than it does for you and me. I do agree with you concerning the future of politics becoming more cutthroat. The Petraeus, Benghazi, Jill Kelly fiasco is indicative of the Romana Empire without the murder or poisonings. But, that is not far behind with all the intrigue surrounding Obama’s past, the media’s compliance to Obama and the Dems, Benghazigate, the Czars, the Chicago thugocracy and so on. I too think we are headed down that path. Right now, state preservation seems to be the only defense. I am not talking seccession, but working very very hard to preserve the smaller unit, the state. Time will tell, but you are correct again in quoting the Founders and what they thought about the future and the time when leaders fail us. We are there I now believe.


139 posted on 11/23/2012 8:47:09 PM PST by taterjay
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