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The Phrase That Lost Romney the Election
RCP ^ | 11/23/2012 | Heather Higgins and Alex Cortes

Posted on 11/23/2012 2:11:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: taterjay

I have to hope that people can look beyond what the State gives them. Indeed I would bet a sizable minority of those on government welfare are willing to vote to end it, just as a sizable minorty of those not vote to expand it.

As is no doubt very clear to all of us the Federal Constitution is but a thing of the past, and even the majority of Americans agree that Washington has not the consent of the governed.

Although with respect to the failure of our education system over the last 50 years it is something of a very serous question as to whether or not the majority of American even know what the consent of the governed means. It seems somewhat obvious to me so I have to guess they understand english.

The Federal injustice system on the other-hand is an arm of a lawless Federal Government which has been the beneficary of one of the rare successes of the public education system in training people to follow them as the masses follow the degree of a dictator.

Nether-side however can be said to hold political alegences to them anymore, an alegence which weakens more and more as we drift further and further into the despotism of democracy.

I wish i could say it was justice, that the Federal court did this to themselves just as the people in voting did this to themselves. But that is to presume we all are ant act as one homologous unit. Something that could never be further from the truth.

Parts of our population did this to us draging the rest of us along. The only failing of the rest of us in this regard is our choice to remain subjects,in lawless union with, those self-destructive parts.

As it is now, the cancer is overtaking us. Were I a gambling man, it saddens me to admit I would not bet on our survival. but as I am part of this dammed lot I have no choice but to bet and do all that I can to insure our(you and me) survival as a free people.


141 posted on 11/23/2012 9:43:50 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

I agree. We must note a majority of voters gave us this but you have to include those Americans who do not vote either way. They contributed too. I know we are not part of the problem but still see America as one country and one people. But yes, we are past that now for the time being. We are divided.


142 posted on 11/23/2012 10:03:12 PM PST by taterjay
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To: Monty22002
Anyone that believes any government agent or any politician ‘cares about you’ is too stupid to live, much less vote.

Therein lies the problem. Our leaders really *are* supposed to care about us. Indeed, moral government requires it. That we have become so jaded as to cynically accept the idea that our leaders should be only out for themselves is a large part of the reason why we're in the mess we're in.

If the people don't demand that moral and ethical people govern them, then they are guaranteed to get immoral and corrupt leaders.
143 posted on 11/23/2012 10:15:09 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”The answer lies in perhaps the single most illustrative exit poll question conducted, where CNN asked “What is the most important candidate quality to your vote?”
The response options were “Strong Leader,” “Shares Your Values,” “Has a Vision for the Future,” and “Cares about People.” Among folks that chose one of the first three responses, Mitt Romney won between 54-61% of their vote. But, among folks who chose “Cares About People,” Romney lost dramatically – 81-18%.
“Cares about you” is the single phrase that lost Romney the election. Those for whom empathy was the most important candidate quality clearly did not get a sense that he cared about people and worse, many even though he was antagonistic towards many Americans.”

No doubt, Romney did this to himself.

144 posted on 11/23/2012 10:17:47 PM PST by sickoflibs (How long before cry-Bohner caves to O again? They took the House for what?)
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To: Gator113
I don’t believe that even Ronald Reagan, the greatest president in my lifetime, could have won against todays media.

You are wrong. If anything, Reagan faced an even more hostile and formidable MSM in his day because they were a complete monopoly and talk radio was much more limited. Today, I am confident that a candidate who is unabashedly conservative, articulate and a warrior with no stupid skeletons in his closet can win. Such a candidate would turn the MSM back into the enemy just like Reagan did.
145 posted on 11/23/2012 10:22:21 PM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Cares about you” explains a lot; it doesn’t even require doing anything, as “makes life better for me” would have. It allows a Democrat to get away with complete incompetence as long as he “feels your pain.”

“Too stupid to live” is a solid description of these people.


146 posted on 11/23/2012 10:22:45 PM PST by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Antoninus

“...a candidate who is unabashedly conservative, articulate and a warrior with no stupid skeletons in his closet can win.”

Such a candidate should have the best chance, but I do not share your confidence.


147 posted on 11/23/2012 10:35:25 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Monty22002

Anyone that believes any government agent or any politician ‘cares about you’ is too stupid to live, much less vote.

truer words were never spoken.
More than half the population have s*** for brains.


148 posted on 11/24/2012 1:56:08 AM PST by genghis
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To: muawiyah
"You need to buff up on American history"

Ummm....look out the window; that's tomorrow's "history", and it ain't pretty.

Living in the PAST won't address the REALITY of what is being done to America today. (Yes, of course, "Learn from History")

149 posted on 11/24/2012 4:42:06 AM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: elkfersupper
"Voters want to feel that office-holders are conscientious about fulfilling their responsibilities to all citizens."

When is the last time that happened?

When it happens, nobody notices.

We just complain as usual about the way things are.

It's when it doesn't happen that people notice, and remember.

Also, there's a threshold involved: all politicians have their own pet constituencies and interest groups that they try to benefit, but when they really leave some group in the lurch, people feel it and resent it.

150 posted on 11/24/2012 8:43:04 AM PST by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Are we literate? This is a great thread, but the enemy can find a 100 spelling and grammar errors here to call us names. Jeez!


151 posted on 11/24/2012 10:12:25 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: taterjay

“I agree. We must note a majority of voters gave us this but you have to include those Americans who do not vote either way. They contributed too. I know we are not part of the problem but still see America as one country and one people. But yes, we are past that now for the time being. We are divided.”

There was a time when I was younger and not far from school that I saw America as one country and one people, as we were taught to in school. But as the years go by with each election it seems increasingly clear that nothing could be further from the truth.

How can one people be so diametrically apposed to each-other and at war with one-anthers individual & regional rights? For that matter how can one country have such sharp regional & cultural differences in the first place?

One can speak any lie he or she likes, but you can’t change the state of facts. If america is one people & one land then we are perhaps the most self-destructively Schizophrenic people & land in North America if not the world.

I see no moral justification in insisting that a population endure the misery of continuing to live such a lie. If the propose of government is to protect the (inherently individual) rights of the people. Our present government has not only failed but become destructive to that end.

If the propose of a union is to enhance the happiness of a people. Our union has not only failed but become destructive to that end as well.

At some point you got to recognize that we can’t be happy together, that our goals & ideas are simply too incomparable to create a mutually beneficial compromise under this extent of (union)government.

I would say that we have grown apart, but my study of history would only show that statement to be no more true than the other about being one people. Americans have never been one people, we were not founded that way, and we never existed that way. At least not by the modern standard of today. Our forefathers felt such an idea to be madness, it was Lincoln who insisted upon it with the sword nothing more. But a sword can only bond men together as prisoners in chains, it cannot in its only available action, forcefully suppression of their free will, make them one.


152 posted on 11/24/2012 2:04:55 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Revolting cat!

“re we literate? This is a great thread, but the enemy can find a 100 spelling and grammar errors here to call us names. Jeez!”

Perhaps that is why they(the enemy) are unworthy of conversation with us on our forum?

They not see the substance of speech past its form. A common problem among inherent racist leftist.


153 posted on 11/24/2012 2:08:05 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

I can’t speak to the Lincoln issue right now, but do know and realize the left will never allow us to live the way we want. They want to force things upon us that have never been acceptable. They will continue to dog us no matter how red a state we live in. The main reason is because they do not want to be held accountable for their actions. Whether it be moral, financial, criminal, or work. They can’t allow an example or a light to exist that might lead people back to basic truth and a foundation.


154 posted on 11/24/2012 3:54:21 PM PST by taterjay
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To: danielmryan
The psychological warfare pushed by the education establishment and so-called entertainment are huge exercises in what marxists used to call ‘impregnational propaganda’. If a human can be trained to have certain automatic responses to certain words and phrases then that person's psyche can be significantly controlled. The librats mocked and hooted that such concepts were just ‘Birchite fantasies’ during the last 20 years of the Cold War while taking such ideas to heart through the writings of the epigoni of John Dewey and other behaviorist psychologists. In effect we now have a lemming electorate presided over by a Manchurian candidate President. No novelist could sell a book treatment for a novel about this yet it has happened right before our eyes.
155 posted on 11/24/2012 5:16:33 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Monty22002
Anyone that believes any government agent or any politician ‘cares about you’ is too stupid to live, much less vote.

This could be a self-correcting problem, as the increasing power of the Democrat mobs and their support of feckless foreign and defense policies increase the likelihood that the Democratic strongholds will be nuked out of existence.

156 posted on 11/24/2012 11:49:22 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: B.O. Plenty
...absolutely, we need a new tax system, preferably, a NST type of tax...

Adding a new tax is always far worse than increasing an old one. I didn't originate that idea, and I wish I could remember who did.

Furthermore, adding a VAT/NST now that the Boomers are retiring and their income is declining, is just a way of "reloading" retirees with retirement funds like 401(k)'s and taxing those moneys yet again, after having already taxed them for Social Security and Medicare, and having taxed them a second time by counting dollars twice for the purpose of levying income taxes. A VAT would be triple-taxation at least -- not even counting state taxes.

The VAT/NST is a wet dream of businessmen who want to use it to remove their tax burden and turn business income tax payments to pure profit (they think).

157 posted on 11/25/2012 12:01:09 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: denydenydeny; SeekAndFind
"It allows a Democrat to get away with complete incompetence rape, perjury, larceny, solicitation of bribery, sale of office, espionage, treason, abuse of power, obstruction of justice, official oppression, and murder and conspiracy to commit murder as long as he 'feels your pain.' "

Try that -- it's a little crisper, I thought.

158 posted on 11/25/2012 12:13:47 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
Too many voters think it's the party of big business.

Well, it is, until conservatives learn to be more intelligently insurrectionary.

Main Street Republicans have always gotten the shaft from the Boys Downtown, going back to the days of the Mugwumps in the 1880's. The only exceptions occurred when they took the nomination in 1964 behind the illuminated and dedicated backers of Barry Goldwater (who included Clifton White and Ronald Reagan) and in 1980 (Reagan and his wealthy California backers again).

159 posted on 11/25/2012 12:20:46 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting. I want a heartless, focused, determined, SOB as my president, not some bleeding heart dimwit who claims to feel my pain. Maybe then we can reclaim our standing in world politics, make some budget and spending cuts, and stop trying to give Disneyland to every sniveling weenie who is scared some else has more than them.

But that’s just me.

Back to dreaming that Margaret Thatcher is a US senator from Texas. Goodnight.


160 posted on 11/25/2012 4:54:10 AM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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