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Will Obama Allow Americans to Practice Catholicism? No!
Patriot Post ^ | 11/21/12 | Terence Jeffrey

Posted on 11/21/2012 9:49:48 AM PST by rhema

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To: agere_contra

Precisely. Remember the same voice that called the universe into creation in the first place, the voice from the one who can neither deceive nor be deceived, this same voice, the voice of Jesus Christ said of the Church, the gates of hell shall not prevail against it’.

We may be facing a trial or persecution, but looking at our history, we should be used to that. We know how this all ends. Take comfort, keep the faith, fight the good fight. In the end, whenver that is; We Win. They don’t call it the Church Militant for nothing.


41 posted on 11/21/2012 2:19:53 PM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: rarestia

Keep in mind Muslims are exempt from Obamacare because paying for health insurance is against their religion. However- there are Muslims who work for their employer and they pay a portion towards their health insurance, like at my work. How is payment of that portion not against their religion?


42 posted on 11/21/2012 6:37:46 PM PST by Engedi
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To: rhema

Better men than you have tried and failed, Junior. Good luck with that.


43 posted on 11/21/2012 7:01:02 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: NYer

How about if all Christian faiths declare that 0bamacare violates their religion? I’m quite confident there are some Protestant groups who would do this. Would that immediately give them an exemption?

What about conservative atheists? (Yes, they exist. I know some.) If I were an atheist, I’d be inclined to make up a religion which forbade 0bamacare and then I would claim an exemption. I’ve known people who got themselves “ordained” by various fringe groups and this was enough in the eyes of the law for them to perform marriages.


44 posted on 11/22/2012 5:08:08 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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How about if all Christian faiths declare that 0bamacare violates their religion? I’m quite confident there are some Protestant groups who would do this. Would that immediately give them an exemption?

There is already a movement in the christian community to address this problem.

Churches must understand that the HHS mandate is not just a Catholic issue. While the Catholic Church is particularly in the crosshairs because of its religious beliefs against contraception, the HHS mandate specifically requires coverage of more than just contraceptive drugs. It also requires coverage of abortion-inducing drugs that every evangelical Christian should oppose.
What Does The Obamacare Ruling Mean For Churches?

From the Catholic Church perspective:

More Background

On January 20, 2012, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) reaffirmed a rule forcing virtually all private health care plans to cover sterilization, abortion-inducing drugs, and contraception. These are listed among "preventive services for women" that all health plans will have to cover without co-pays or other cost-sharing -- regardless of whether the insurer, the employer or other plan sponsor, or even the woman herself objects to such coverage.

The exemption provided for "religious employers" was so narrow that it failed to cover the vast majority of faith-based organizations—including Catholic hospitals, universities, and charities—that help millions every year. Ironically, not even Jesus and his disciples would have qualified for the exemption, because it excludes those who mainly serve people of another faith.
Conscience Protection

It's a complex issue.

45 posted on 11/22/2012 7:15:48 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: rhema

Catholics (like me) believe that an unborn child has a life and a soul in the same sense that every human being has life and a soul. Consequently, the Catholic Church can no more condone abortion than it could The Holocaust. Is there a middle ground? Was there a middle ground wherein one can condone the killing of only, say, three million Jews?


46 posted on 11/22/2012 8:32:12 AM PST by Inwoodian
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