Primary School Teachers 'Could Face Sack' For Refusing To Promote Gay Marriage [Faith Schools Too!]

Telegraph(UK) ^ | November 18, 2012 | John Bingham

[Steelfish]

Primary School Teachers 'Could Face Sack' For Refusing To Promote Gay Marriage

By John Bingham 18 Nov 2012 Liz Truss, an education minister, refused to rule out the possibility that teachers, even in faith schools, could face disciplinary action for objecting on grounds of conscience.

Miss Truss said simply that it was impossible to know what the impact of the legislation would be at this stage.

Her admission came in a letter to a fellow Conservative MP, David Burrowes, last month.

Mr Burrowes, a practising Christian, originally wrote to Maria Miller, the equalities minister, raising concerns about the impact on schools of the Coalition’s plans to change the marriage laws.

It followed the publication of a legal opinion by Aidan O’Neill QC, a barrister in the same London chambers as Cherie Blair, commissioned by the Coalition for Marriage, which campaigns against same-sex unions.

Mr O’Neill, an expert on human rights, was asked to advise on the impact redefining marriage to include same-sex couples could have on schools, churches, hospitals, foster carers and public buildings. Among his conclusions was that schools could be within their statutory rights to dismiss staff who wilfully fail to use stories or textbooks promoting same-sex weddings.

Parents who object to gay marriage being taught to their children would also have no right to withdraw their child from lessons, he argued. And, in theory, the fact that a school was a faith school would make no difference, he added.

[little jeremiah]

A principled stand for gays would be to recognize that morality, whether pro-gay or anti-gay, has no place in public schools.

Schools cannot be value neutral. The very idea of values neutral was invented by secular humanists to push their own standards. Morality cannot be separated from public life, and the false claim that it can is merely a backdoor method of promoting immorality in the name of "neutrality".

Oops, I see you've already been ushered out the door.

[steve86]

Gabz, Have you not ever noticed that even the owner of the site breaks his own rules on occasion -- not that often -- when he gets angry enough at a liberal troll? Being afraid to show anger is a liberal thing. They claim to want to "coexist" -- except with social conservatives. The particular troll on this thread is not only a liberal but also a homosexual apologist and secularist.

People need to understand that our nation's decline is not going to be stopped with civility, politeness and niceties, nor even voting, evidently. What it will actually take to turn things around is yet to be determined. But sticking smilies on polite thread comments and deleting harsh ones isn't going to do it, I'm pretty well convinced.

[little jeremiah]

Gay love has existed throughout history and in nearly every culture so it is hardly the “perversion” you claim.

It is true that all kinds of evils have existed since time immemorial, including sexual perversion. Doesn't make it normal, natural or beneficent.

[Albion Wilde]

... in West Hollywood. You go into the bathroom in a gay bar, you are likely to interrupt two men having sex in the lady’s room...

What? They looked up? Amateurs...

[steve86]

I am apologizing to the straight people on this thread for the outburst LOL

[Albion Wilde]

Oops, I see you've already been ushered out the door.

Don't let it hit you. If that was you, Camille, I'd like to see you return under some other name; I've respected and admired much of what you have to say in many fields, but this is a private association and one needs to respect the ground rules here.

[Gabz]

The owner can break whatever rules he so desires, it is his site. I have no fear of getting angry with liberal trolls, I’ve done it plenty - but with language I would have no problem allowing my 14 year old to read. If I chose, I could make a seafarer blush with my vernacular, however I happen to not choose to stoop to the level of the liberal trolls.

[Albion Wilde]

Oops, meant my last post for paglia444.

Ex-poster.

[little jeremiah]

I wanted to see what other comments paglia had made, but the purple error was already up. I wonder it was was Camille P or someone using her name.

[Sherman Logan]

Gay love has existed throughout history and in nearly every culture so it is hardly the “perversion” you claim.

Quite true. But then so has any perversion you might care to name. Assuming you would consider any behavior to qualify as a perversion.

The issue is that in the vast majority, though not all, of these societies "gay love" was thoroughly in the closet, not out and proud. Very often it was a severely punished crime.

If we took a poll of all humans who have ever lived, the huge majority would vote for gay love being a perversion.

That's not perhaps the best way to settle such issues, but it makes more sense than a recent, two or three decades long fad for acceptance and celebration in a few decadent western countries being touted as the norm, and all other previous human behavior the exception./I

[Albion Wilde]

As noted, Ms Camille is one of the most open-minded and even fair-minded scholar of the arts, who is also lesbian. But rules is rules around here.

[steve86]

OK, the weekend is getting short back there — enjoy what’s left. My apologies to any FReeper who might have had a young or impressionable FReepie reading.

[little jeremiah]

I did find her posting history, and only one comment supporting homo-agenda, but very positive support. Not FR material.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:paglia444/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2959500/posts?page=24#24

Ground Broken For Housing Project Intended For Members Of LGBT Community

Ground has been broken in the heart of Philadelphia’s Gayborhood for a housing project that will serve the needs of the LGBT community.

It’s described as the first urban project of its kind — six floors of low income housing for elderly lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders.

It’s being built with a mixture of local, state and federal funds. And that was reflected by the number of politicians on hand for Friday’s ceremony.

So, tax money going to build special housing for homosexuals. And paglia444’s comment about this, pretending to be conservatives (sort of) in other comments, yet finds no problem with using public monies to build housing for homoesxuals only.

Good for them. Nice to see Philly be inclusive.

24 posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:47:39 PM by paglia444
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[little jeremiah]

That’s why keeping such activities and so on in the closet is really the way to go.

[little jeremiah]

What did you say? Freepmail me if you don’t mind, I’m curious about it since I’ve seen really $(*@(*( language around FR lately and it seems to be more tolerated.

[steve86]

At least I got the poster deleted. Probably wouldn’t have happened otherwise, at least not in this thread. Mission accomplished.

[steve86]

I’m just going to drop it; mission accomplished when the (retread) poster got the ZOT.

Always enjoy your comments and, in many cases, I learn from them.

[mrsmel]

Why are you surprised that this is a conservative, pro-Christian, pro-family, anti-homosexual agenda site, when it's stated right in the founder's statement of principles? It's no secret, and almost no one here supports the homo agenda. As for homosexuality having been present thoughout history and in almost all cultures, so was bestiality, and I don't see (yet, though I'm sure it's on someone's mind just over the horizon) bestiality advocacy groups attempting to coerce others into "tolerating" (supporting and celebrating) their particular evil perversion.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for the reply; so it was a retread, then?

[Bikkuri]

QUEER ZoT!