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To: onedoug

Republicans keep bragging about being the party of Lincoln. Well Lincoln was the LIBERAL of his time, the Democrats were the Conservatives. Why do you think the south held on to the Democrats until the 70’s? The democrats finally got SO liberal the old blue dogs couldn’t take it any more.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 8:05:50 AM PST by conservaterian (NOW can we have a conservative candidate?????)
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To: conservaterian
Well Lincoln was the LIBERAL of his time, the Democrats were the Conservatives

Bushwa!

That's almost as misleading as calling Nazis "Right wingers"
Democrats were and are liberals. Self determination and independence are and have always been Conservative principles. The will to keep people in plantations clearly militate against that.

32 posted on 11/16/2012 8:46:12 AM PST by stormhill
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To: conservaterian

Lincoln was a classical liberal. He was for lowering the burden of taxes on the working man. “The face that grows the corn should eat the corn.” He held, and in his life demonstrated that a man could work for himself for a certain number of years, then hire another to work with him for a certain number of years, then be wealthy enough to start a business. Lincoln handled over 5000 cases in his career. Consider John Edwards, former Democratic candidate for vice president: He handled 26 cases in his entire legal career. Lincoln once handled a case for a railroad, and billed them 20,000$. They refused to pay, and Lincoln took out a lien on the railroad. That would have allowed him to, with the aid of the local sheriff, to seize and sell off any assets of the railroad until the debt was paid.

Taxes on slaves were about 100%, from the point of view of the slave. Slavery endowed every slave owner with the power of the government. Unless the master chose to let the slave keep tips or money the slave earned after completing his daily tasks.

Slavery permitted rape, kidnapping, assault, and theft as a normal process. Further, the slave power enslaved white militia members, both before the war as ‘slave patrol’ to search for potential runaway slaves, and during the war as conscripts to the slave power, while slave owners were granted deferments.

Some soldiers from Georgia were conscripted, forced to fight for the insurrection, wounded, shipped home, where their state conscripted them again, and then shipped a second time to satisfy the insurrection’s endless demands for cannon fodder.


90 posted on 11/17/2012 7:08:28 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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