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1 posted on 11/15/2012 11:01:24 AM PST by far sider
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To: far sider

Now that the election is over. Now that the SCOTUS has made its ruling.....

The ONLY way to get rid of Obamacare and restore the Constitution (especially the 10th Amendment) is to go this route....unless someone out there has a better idea.


2 posted on 11/15/2012 11:04:58 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: far sider

Late me state up front that secession is a stupid idea because you don’t like the temporary occupant of the White House. That said if you wanted to de facto leave then here is how you do it.

You have to reject all federal dollars for your education, health care, prison system, highways etc. and the strings that come with them. You have to accept the fact that the United States is still going to take money out of your state through taxes because of the fact there are too many companies doing business in other places besides Texas.

If you don’t take federal money then you don’t have to do federal programs so you have that liberty. But that is about all you get out of it. You are still paying for other failed states like Illinois, California and New York.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 11:10:50 AM PST by Patrick1 (“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”)
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Right on. 9th & 10th Amendments, save us. We are still a federal system. That means the states can still refuse to implement programs handed down by the federal government. FIGHT! RESIST! They have NO power over the states that the states do not allow them to have.


4 posted on 11/15/2012 11:11:02 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: far sider

Texas has 3 million on Medicare and 4.5 million on Medicaid.
That’s a lot of folks to deport to blue states....


5 posted on 11/15/2012 11:14:07 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: far sider

Well, there are two problems with that plan:

First, the federal government gives some taxpayers a deduction (not a credit) for state taxes. So, unless Texas taxed at a rate of 100%, there could still be some federal tax due.

Second, the federal government decides whether or not state taxes can be deducted. How long do you think it would take the feds to fix the problem?


6 posted on 11/15/2012 11:20:38 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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I don’t think you’ve thought this one through. Take a Texan who makes $50,000 per year and let’s say he or she pays 10% ( $5,000) in federal income tax (imaginary number but easy to work with). If Texas imposes a state income tax equal to the federal rate, he/she pays Austin $5,000 which of course is deductible from gross income — reducing it from $50,000 to $45,000 for tax purposes. The federal tax liability falls from $5,000 to $4,500. As another poster noted, you can’t get there from here. Don’t mix up tax deductions with tax credits.


11 posted on 11/15/2012 12:03:25 PM PST by newroark (Ever Vigilant)
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To: far sider

There is a petition by a group in Austin if Texas does secede, to let Austin remain part of the union. I say ship the libs to CA or NY.


12 posted on 11/15/2012 12:08:24 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: far sider

LOL. The funny thing about all this “Texas should secede” nonsense is that in not too many more years Texas will be a blue state like California. Texas is loaded with a rapidly growing Hispanic population that will continue to vote more and more Democrat and flip the state.

The states that might one day be candidates to secede (in a fantasy scenario that will likely never really happen) will be the ones with the highest percentage of white people. As current trends continue, states in the rust belt, NH and perhaps places like Oregon will probably become more and more Republican and most likely to resist the growing tentacles of the social welfare state.


13 posted on 11/15/2012 12:24:17 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: far sider

You mean something like nullification?


14 posted on 11/15/2012 12:36:50 PM PST by dangus
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To: far sider

Any “solution” that starts with increasing state taxes is a non-starter.


15 posted on 11/15/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: far sider

Stop this nonsense. Texas is NOT going to secede. Texas is heavily populated by American loving patriots, and we’re not leaving our country.


16 posted on 11/15/2012 2:22:50 PM PST by Melas (u)
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