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To: floralamiss
I also believe many secessionists would gladly fight and die, but the war wouldn’t last for more than a day, if that. I know it’s possible to secede, I just don’t think it’s possible to succeed.

Your thinking is 19th century. The last thing anyone needs to do is throw down the gauntlet and provoke violence or a military confrontation. Did the left try to start a war and conquer the nation 100 years ago when our nation started trending leftward? Unfortunately no, or they would only be a footnote in history books.

But if you keep the idea out there it is the natural solution to a divided nation eventually both sides will decide it is a good idea OR we will realize we have to change course to preserve the union. At the rate we are spending the federal government is on track to destroy itself anyway. The states had better start looking forward to the day when they need to stand alone.

And the left does not look at the productivity of the right as something it needs -- that is why they are printing cash at an insane rate. They do not understand that ultimately that cash has to be backed up by productivity. That is one of the very issues that separates left from right.

What they do understand is power. They are absolutely ruthless in its application.

114 posted on 11/13/2012 6:12:16 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

By my estimation - we are heading to societal collapse and break up in the next 20 years. There is no way that the debt, deficit, spending obligations, can be kept going at this rate


126 posted on 11/13/2012 6:46:26 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: hopespringseternal

If my thinking is 19th century, then so is yours. You are preaching to the choir.


129 posted on 11/13/2012 7:34:47 AM PST by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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To: hopespringseternal

“And the left does not look at the productivity of the right as something it needs...”

Despite your misinterpretation of my comment, we agree on much, but I part company with the above quote.

So, we are talking about secession on this thread, and following through on this very bad idea, we must reason about corporate products and other resources in the disaffiliated states, which are produced and/or are processed there or transported through them. Try food production, for starters, and those resources aren’t exclusive to the breadbasket states. Try transportation and interstate commerce.

And the left— meaning government, because that is what this conversation is about —is taxing us up to our occipital ridges, why exactly? The right hand produces; the left hand takes.


134 posted on 11/13/2012 8:25:48 AM PST by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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