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To: cripplecreek; kabar; LS; ez; Travis McGee
I just want to know when cowards like you are going to get the hell out of my country and never look back and better yet, never infect American ears with your defeatist cowardice.

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Perhaps a little too much coffee this morning? Look, we're all on the same side - we're simply discussing ways in which we can win & take back the country. Right now, the Dems are trying to run out the clock. Or, as many have described it, the boiling frog tactic.

Kabar posts a wealth of demographic data. Another angle is this one: the peak post-WWII birth year was 1957, which means peak Boomers reached 55 this year. In 20 more years, they will be 75 and too tired, ill or apathetic to fight any longer. However, @ 55, enough may have seen the light in order to effectively counter what is occurring.

In many ways, the left may have, as is usually their case, over-reached before their goal was secure. Look how many people are considering the one sure-fire way to defeat their plans: let it collapse now instead of later.

The socialists are actually quite ingeniously evil. Conservatives have morals, principles & honor. They use these very traits against us in order to keep us hitched to the wagon pulling their load(s). When we are too tired, they simply dispose of us. After all, that's what O-care & the death panels are all about

But would happen if we ALL tossed the reins and then JUMPED into the wagon today? Consider the impact of 50-100m Americans not only going Galt in terms of tossing the reins, but then adding to the equation in terms of these same numbers overloading the welfare system.

Do people see how fast this would come to an end? F*ck politics - our energy should be building a grass roots explosion of awareness & organization on how to bring this sucker down right here & now.

And the way to do it is what I summarized above. Or, in other words, go Alinsky on their ass. Yeah, that's right, I read his book. They are wonderful at organizing through churches, etc. How come we're not doing that?

99 posted on 11/11/2012 7:33:51 AM PST by semantic
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To: semantic
Kabar posts a wealth of demographic data. Another angle is this one: the peak post-WWII birth year was 1957, which means peak Boomers reached 55 this year. In 20 more years, they will be 75 and too tired, ill or apathetic to fight any longer. However, @ 55, enough may have seen the light in order to effectively counter what is occurring.

If you accept the exit polls, Obama won the age groups 18-29 (60% to 37%) and 30-44 (52%-45%). They totaled 46% of the electorate. Romney won the age groups 45-64 (51%-47%) and the 65+ (56%-44%). They totaled 54% of the electorate.

It is obvious that the Reps are losing the lower age groups. Why? First, these groups are increasing their minority percentages due to immigration and higher birth rates among minorities compared to non-Hipanic whites. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG. Hence, each year that goes by adds to the Dem electorate and subtracts from the Rep electorate as non-Hispanic whites die and are not replaced in their ranks at the lower age groups.

Immigrants and minorities grow old as well, but their percentage of the total population is constantly increasing. By 2042 half of the country will be minorities as defined by the USG. We are also an aging population. By 2030 one in five residents of this country will be 65 or older--twice what it is now. Whether immigrants and minorities will become more Rep as they grow older is problematic since one's political affiliation is more akin to religion than anything else. You are literally born into it.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born. It is not a stretch to say that these immigrants, once they become citizens, will vote Dem 2 to 1.

We do not have an Hispanic problem. We have an immigrant, minority, and younger voter problem. The changing demographics of this country have electoral consequences and have for decades except the Rep political elites and pundits have failed to recognize it. Some of it has to do with the huge influence the Chamber of Commerce has over the GOP. They have been pushing more guest workers, more immigrants, and amnesty to keep the flow of cheap exportable labor coming into this country to reduce wages and increase profits. In the process they have privatized the benefits and socialized the costs, which are killing our schools, healthcare, and law enforcement.

Now the solution appears to embrace amnesty as a way of getting more minority and immigrant votes. The exact opposite will happen as it will increase Dem voters and lose more of the GOP base who will be upset about such a move.

If you want to see a brief, chilling video about how the Dems and the SEIU feels about an amnesty and what it means, just watch and listen: At the America's Future Now! conference in Washington, DC on June 2, 2009, SEIU International Executive Vice President Eliseo Medina addressed attendees on why comprehensive immigration reform is an important issue for the progressive community to support, and how progressives can forge common ground on an immigration reform strategy.

110 posted on 11/11/2012 8:18:24 AM PST by kabar
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