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1 posted on 11/08/2012 6:15:28 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Voters asked for this. Let them have what they voted for.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 6:17:32 PM PST by Galtoid ( .)
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It’s not important. Vaginas,illegals and faux empathy are what matters. 4 dead Americans in Benghazi? No match for an Obamaphone. Get your priorities in order. A new day has dawned in Amerika.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:26 PM PST by jwalsh07
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ahhh..but voters don’t care about those things


4 posted on 11/08/2012 6:19:43 PM PST by dalebert
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All Republicans need to say is that Obama won. The burden of providing the leadership on any compromise rests on his shoulders.
But the MSM has gone all out today to try and pin the responsibility 100% on Boehner.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 6:22:24 PM PST by DOGHEAD
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Funny how Polico and the other MSM types never really raised this as a campaign issue. Yeah, it was mentioned, but all of a sudden it’s this crisis... after the campaign.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 6:24:48 PM PST by Obadiah (Americans lusted for Obama. Give them Obama! Everything he Constitutionally asks for.)
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By allowing the 2003 Bush tax cuts to retire, taxes will be increasing the bottom rate from 10% to 15% and the 20% bracket to 25%.
Raising the 10% bracket to 15% represents what percentage of increase? (Hint: The correct answer is NOT 5%)

To those moving from the 10% bracket to 15%, their taxes will be increased by 50%!!

Raising the 20% bracket to 25% represents what percentage of increase? (Hint: The correct answer, again, is NOT 5%)it’s s a full-blown 25% increase in taxes

Finally, raising the 35% bracket to 39% represents what percentage of increase: (Hint: The correct answer is NOT 4%)that’s roughly an 11% increase in taxes.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 6:27:45 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: tobyhill
Let it.

Time for the repubs to play the divide and conquer game.

Play the producers against the non producers.

Let's see who wins.

12 posted on 11/08/2012 6:30:02 PM PST by IMR 4350
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on a solution that provides some certainty to American families and businesses, while also bringing down our deficit and debt.”

How about this? Cut social programs back so the dependents get only what they NEED to live without working. A minimal place to live, canned goods like many taxpayers have to eat, and coupons for thrift store clothing. Why not have THEM do some of the "fair share" to help this country?

If their comfortable life wasn't so comfortable, they'd be tax payers in no time. If they WANT more than we give them, they'll get a job.

The cut backs would save billions over night. The savings would be huge, and the dependents wouldn't be harmed by it - just inconvenienced.

Cut taxes for the working class big time. If the working class has more to spend, they'll buy. When they buy, businesses produce. The more businesses produce, the more they hire. All those on welfare would be able to find work. The whole nation would become productive. The economy would boom like it's never boomed before.
A booming economy would pay off that deficit in no time.

In other words, how about REAL change. Instead of paying and rewarding people NOT to work, how about paying and rewarding those who DO work instead?

Problem solved!

13 posted on 11/08/2012 6:30:16 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Let’s see. 16 trillion in Federal debt, trillions more in state and local government debt, excessive dollar printing, unfunded entitlements, ongoing monumental deficit spending ,a bizarre unchecked anti capitalist EPA spewing regulations, a health and job killing Obamacare ( a left wing twofer) and high taxes and low productivity. The barbarian Obama crowned by the decadent and demented. The new trendy term is “financial cliff.” Good comic term to describe the Obama clown parade rushing toward the precipice with their tattered “Its Bush’s fault” banners fluttering.The country chose a vapid fool to lead it and will suffer the consequences. The Republicans simply do not have the political power to influence the outcome. It would actually be good politics to step aside.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 6:31:14 PM PST by allendale
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Screw `em. The voters sent a powerful message.. instead of getting government out of the way and opening up opportunities for economic growth and prosperity.. they chose to be parasites, expecting productive citizens to lavish them with a lifestyle of leisure.

Amerika is nothing more than a version of France with crappy architecture, rampant crime and fat, slovenly people. It`s just a landmass to me right now.

Sorry about the `tude, all... I`m not particularly happy with this formerly great country`s voting populace these days.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:24 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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I say let it happen. We’re at this point due to Obama’s crap leadership and lack of economic understanding. Boehner should refuse to raise taxes, period. And insist on spending cuts. If Obama doesn’t agree. Let it burn down. Only a crap President would leave the country so vulnerable.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:56 PM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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The libs voted for it, that’s what they want. Run off the cliff full speed. Let them own it.

Everyone else just brace for impact.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 6:40:00 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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I agree, let it happen


21 posted on 11/08/2012 6:43:13 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Under Obama, American constitutional rights are now subject to muslim approval)
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“on a solution that provides some certainty to American families and businesses, while also bringing down our deficit and debt.”

Democrats...lol. They’re all just skanky, fat, lying pigs.


23 posted on 11/08/2012 6:46:24 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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I have reached a point where I don’t give a Fudge what they do. Either way America is screwed.We have idiots running the Government and a Muslim in the White House-—again.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 6:54:54 PM PST by Venturer
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“Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) asked for the report and said the findings are another reminder of the need to find an alternative to the tax increases and spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff.”

I wonder what the alternative will be??? Maybe tax increases combined with no actual spending cuts but promises to do better in the future? How did I know?


27 posted on 11/08/2012 7:05:38 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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Boner will have no effect on the imminent economic implosion no matter what he does. The only way to stop the fiscal cliff is to cut social program spending, reducing regulation, promoting domestic energy and reducing taxes. NONE OF THESE THINGS WILL OCCUR. The economy will tank whether there is a deal or not.
Boner is a useful idiot for zero and he is weakening his position everyday by alienating the conservative base. But just maybe, Boner’s stupidity will result in a conservative challenger to his speakership.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 7:16:23 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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Regardless of what “deal” they hammer out it will be grossly unsatisfactory. Our budgetary problems will remain. No amount of taxation will bring us close to solvency, as no spending restraints will be implemented. The country’s fiscal demise will not come on a date of our choosing. Simply put, we will wake up one day and flames will be all around us. So you better sleep with your fire extinguisher.

http://www.usdebtclock.org


30 posted on 11/08/2012 7:26:02 PM PST by BlueStateRightist
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To: tobyhill; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
I agree. The loser party should have a single mission in mind now : Make O own this. In fact start calling the congress ‘Obama’s Democrat Congress’ as if he took it over.

Here's what Republicans should say (repeated here) :

Dems won and they are for raising taxes.
The Bush tax cuts expire in December and President Obama has made it a point many times that he thinks that these Bush tax cuts are bad policy and he wants them to expire. He said they destroyed the economy. He ran on that and won.
So there is nothing we can do. The people have spoken. Our hands are tied.
But we still think its bad policy to raise taxes.

Then secretly ask O how badly he needs the House to pass something.

Lastly DON"T SAY STUPID STUFF in public like challenging O or in any way acting crazy. This past congress's GOP members have a great talent for giving Obama a big LOADED gun pointed at their own heads.
On camera : Act concerned, Act worried, Plead with Obama to think of the country first.

JEEZE! Are these Rs clueless??

32 posted on 11/08/2012 7:33:14 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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The time has come that the Court Houses in America, that give Holy Matrimony Marriage Licenses to couples, has LOST their ‘right’, and their ‘priviledge’ to extend legal, authentic, bonafide Marriage Licenses when they started giving licenses to the people of the same sex.
TO FIX THIS: Christians should boycott EN MASSE the Court House and just see how many taxes are collected in a year, and when the budget planners realize they’ve lost revenue, they’ll amend the Court House to give Civil Unions to Same Sex, and Holy Matrimony to Male/Female relationships.
Funny when George W. Bush was asked what the greatest threat to America was he responed that it was the destruction of the American family. Churches need to open a website where couples can apply On LIne for a Marriage Certificate that has been endorsed by Evangelical Churches, and bypass the Courthouse.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 7:54:10 PM PST by rovenstinez
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