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Fascinating, and opposite to the prevailing conventional wisdom about why Romney lost. It's clear now that running moderate candidates (even competent and decent candidates like Romney) means we will lose.

Romney bet that playing nice and running on conpetence would be enough, but bringing a knife to a gun fight leads to getting shot. He never respoded to Obama's attacks in kind, betting that playing nice would appeal to the mushy middle - he lost that bet.

This piece is long, but well worth the read if you want to understand the lessons of the election.

1 posted on 11/08/2012 7:32:45 AM PST by TonyInOhio
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Who says white voters didn’t show up.

Let’s remember the growing crowds for Romney, and the crickets at the Hussein rallies.

A simple tampering with voting machines can wipe out millions of repub votes.

Everyone I know could not wait to go vote. We waited 4 long painful years to do that.

We showed up, and they wiped out millions of our votes with the largest amount of vote fraud and tampering in history.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 8:27:29 AM PST by TheConservativeParty (Dems to Amerika : "All ur votes belong to us.")
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I know we can “Freep” a poll. Let’s see if we can Freep an issue. Bring up the fact that the Republicans stayed home on every site you can, in every comment section possible. NRO, Hot Air, and all the rest. Email right-leaning pundits. This is why Romney lost. The Republican base didn’t turn out, and the “experts” aren’t addressing it. They will answer it by running another moderate.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 8:28:18 AM PST by cdcdawg
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Fascinating, and opposite to the prevailing conventional wisdom about why Romney lost. It's clear now that running moderate candidates (even competent and decent candidates like Romney) means we will lose. Romney bet that playing nice and running on conpetence would be enough, but bringing a knife to a gun fight leads to getting shot. He never respoded to Obama's attacks in kind, betting that playing nice would appeal to the mushy middle - he lost that bet. This piece is long, but well worth the read if you want to understand the lessons of the election.

>br> Of course. CNBC did an article on this yesterday but, they couched it in sarcasm, "Where was the angry white male voter", or something like that. Many white males of voting age stayed home but, of course we're gonna get the GOP claiming it's because of Akin or some other irrelevant person. They'll never get why. They and some on here will continue to talk about reaching out to Mexicans and blacks as if that's gonna help.
45 posted on 11/08/2012 8:32:23 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: TonyInOhio

I hope everyone who posts on this thread, also look at all our comments on the earlier thread on this same article, at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2957014/posts


46 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:09 AM PST by Wuli
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To: TonyInOhio

It’s not that difficult to NOT COUNT Romney votes, is it? Something will eventually come out but it won’t matter, as usual. 0bama winning nearly all the battle ground states and Romney winning nearly all the non-battle ground states makes no sense.


52 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:23 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: TonyInOhio

All the post mortems aside, recall the hype before and during the election: RECORD TURNOUT was the talk of the town. EVERYWHERE!!! RECORD TURNOUT in early voting. RECORD TURNOUT in absentee voting. RECORD TURNOUT at the polls. LONG LINES at most if not all polling stations. MANY polling stations stayed open late to accomodate the LONG LINES. And NOW we’re led to believe it was all just a figment of our collective imaginations... What happened to the votes???


62 posted on 11/08/2012 8:57:53 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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“It’s clear now that running moderate candidates (even competent and decent candidates like Romney) means we will lose.”

Then explain how true blue through and through conservatives like Mia Love and Allen West, as well as other conservatives in many states lost also.


66 posted on 11/08/2012 9:08:45 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: TonyInOhio
There were longer lines to vote than anyone had seen. There were record wait times required to vote. Voters who voted for Romney reported that the voting machines recorded their vote for Obama.

It amazes me that so many FReepers blindly believe the story that Republican voters didn't vote and that turnout was higher in Democrat areas.

There was huge attendance at Republican rallies before the election.

I don't have the proof but it appears that there was massive vote fraud in the battle ground states. Instead of recriminations and hand wringing perhaps it might be better to look into this.

68 posted on 11/08/2012 9:21:05 AM PST by detective
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My guess is that of these white voters who didn’t vote, a large percentage of them don’t pay taxes, for whatever reason, and very few of them work in the private sector or own businesses. We may find a surprising percentage of them have Obamaphones.

This could be the first generation of voting age white Americans who have little or no desire towards accomplishment or achievement.

As I heard Dennis Miller say this morning, running Marco Rubio in 2016 wouldn’t appeal to this demographic. The “O” at the end of his name wouldn’t matter unless it had a lot of O’s after it and a dollar sign in front of it.


69 posted on 11/08/2012 9:25:52 AM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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"Fascinating, and opposite to the prevailing conventional wisdom about why Romney lost. It's clear now that running moderate candidates (even competent and decent candidates like Romney) means we will lose."

This was purely a gotv beat.

"Early voting gave Dems weeks to ship low info voters to polls." - Dan Gainor (Media Research Council)

71 posted on 11/08/2012 9:31:05 AM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: TonyInOhio

http://www.umich.edu/~lawrace/disenfranchise1.htm


73 posted on 11/08/2012 9:34:59 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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BTW...”Missing Voters” ...is a distraction...look for the “excess voters”...and you’ll find the answers...

Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.(or both!!)


76 posted on 11/08/2012 9:40:29 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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Rush is just now going thru the numbers in more detail. Fewer Republicans voted for Romney than did for McCain. About three (3) million Republicans DID NOT vote. That’s enough to have put Romney up by about 100K. Nice work sliders. Staying home worked out great and you got the Obamuzzie you deserve. Now I’m going to spend the other half of my campaign money on ammunition.


78 posted on 11/08/2012 9:56:39 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: TonyInOhio

Don’t you think Mitt Romney’s treatment of Ron Paul at the Republican Convention *might* have had something to do with this? Regardless of Paul’s political viewpoints, he did win the delegates fair and square.


85 posted on 11/08/2012 10:18:42 AM PST by Madam Theophilus
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ping


89 posted on 11/08/2012 10:31:13 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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It's clear now that running moderate candidates (even competent and decent candidates like Romney) means we will lose.

You're wrong. It had nothing to do with policy. Romney ran on traditional American know-how, a positive campaign of ideas.

Romney bet that playing nice and running on conpetence would be enough, but bringing a knife to a gun fight leads to getting shot. He never respoded to Obama's attacks in kind, betting that playing nice would appeal to the mushy middle - he lost that bet.

Wrong again. Romney "played nice" because he had a huge problem with likability and he closed that gap by election day telling me it was the right strategy for him.

I haven't read the whole piece yet but the "lessons" are probably wrong based on your take away commentary. Romney doesn't have to have done things wrong in this campaign to have lost to Obama. He ran a great campaign; he performed very well in the debates.

In Ohio he was crippled by Obama's mischaracterization of the auto bailout op-ed Romney wrote years ago.

92 posted on 11/08/2012 10:42:10 AM PST by newzjunkey (Obama thanks Pontius Pilate Freepers for giving him four more years!)
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I've been attacked on here as a nut, but I'm one of those voters who simply voted straight ticket Republican but went back and dis-selected Romney in the presidential election. I suspect a lot of true conservatives did the same.

There are "nose despite your face" arguments, but the bottom line is you cannot vote against a candidate in our elections and therefore some people could not morally vote for an ultra liberal like Romney. I suspect at least 1% of the 3% mentioned in this article are similar cases.
100 posted on 11/08/2012 11:03:43 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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ping


106 posted on 11/08/2012 11:18:22 AM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: TonyInOhio

Purists here and elsewhere stayed home or didn’t vote because to them there wasn’t a perfect candidate so they got a perfect socialist dictator socialist Obama. These purists just gave the country, our life , and liberty to socialism and Obama FOREVER. the democrats were able to commit voter fraud because of the power of the government. See the growing government and socialism makes government much more powerful so that it will allow Obama to have all power soon( It already has abused power so many times ).


116 posted on 11/08/2012 11:41:10 AM PST by Democrat_media (limit government to 5000 words of laws. how to limit gov Quantify limited government ...)
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I say the missing GOP was there, but their votes were siphoned off to bama


135 posted on 11/08/2012 1:14:56 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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