Posted on 11/08/2012 7:32:38 AM PST by TonyInOhio
One of the more intriguing narratives for election 2012 was proposed by political scientist Brendan Nyhan fairly early on: that it was "Bizarro 2004."
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The Election Day returns actually continued the similarities. George W. Bush won by 2.4 percent of the popular vote, which is probably about what Obamas victory margin will be once all the ballots are counted.
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But most importantly, the 2012 elections actually werent about a demographic explosion with non-white voters. Instead, they were about a large group of white voters not showing up.
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In other words, if our underlying assumption -- that there are 7 million votes outstanding -- is correct, then the African-American vote only increased by about 300,000 votes, or 0.2 percent, from 2008 to 2012. The Latino vote increased by a healthier 1.7 million votes, while the other category increased by about 470,000 votes.
This is nothing to sneeze at, but in terms of the effect on the electorate, it is dwarfed by the decline in the number of whites. Again, if our assumption about the total number of votes cast is correct, almost 7 million fewer whites voted in 2012 than in 2008. This isnt readily explainable by demographic shifts either; although whites are declining as a share of the voting-age population, their raw numbers are not.). In other words, the reason this electorate looked so different from the 2008 electorate is almost entirely attributable to white voters staying home.
Put another way: The increased share of the minority vote as a percent of the total vote is not the result of a large increase in minorities in the numerator, it is a function of many fewer whites in the denominator.
(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.realclearpolitics.com ...
I'm in total agreement with this article. This is an astute analysis. The numbers add up and it makes perfect sense with reality. The article shows that in at least Ohio, the lower turnout came from white, blue-collar areas. The Bain ads worked, just as they did in Romney's 1994 Senate race and in the South Carolina primary when Newt Gingrich released the "King of Bain" video.
The primary voters were warned by Newt's campaign that Romney was unelectable, but the Republican establishment continued insisting he was the most electable candidate. The GOP elite is so out-of-touch with working class people that they could not understand how unappealing and unlikable those ads made Romney look. Either that or they didn't care.
If you remember, Newt was savaged by the elites for daring to criticize Romney's business career. I think he backed off after that or just ran out of money in Florida.
The elites and the voters alike failed to accept the fact that these were exactly the kind of ads the Democrats would run and that if they hurt Romney in a Republican primary, they sure would in a general election.
This election was lost in the primary because the voters nominated an unelectable candidate. He was unelectable not because of ideology, but because of unique vulnerabilities to him based on his private business dealings. The conservative base probably did turn out just to vote Obama out. But the swing voters we needed were poisoned by the Bain ads.
If we had nominated Newt, he would be president-elect right now. He had even floated Hispanic governor Susana Martinez as a potential V.P. pick for him. Because of Newt's political astuteness, he would probably have selected either Rubio or Martinez as his V.P., giving him another boost in the final vote.
I think that there is. There's a site that was storing everybody's voter registration and what elections they voted in and putting it online for OH, FL and PA. They seemed to stop updating the data in 2010 though. Their fine print said after 2000 this information was legally mandated to be stored by the states to prevent fraud.
I just can’t figure it out. There were so many white people in line, where there never were in previous years.
computer voting machines
easily programmed
votes easily lost
votes easily cast (from Census records?)
just 1’s and 0’s
Thanks, yes, that’s what I mean. Whether or not anyone voted is public knowledge and part of the public record.
Nope. It was the Bain ads and the 47% remark which allowed the Dems to create a narrative that turned off blue-collar whites to Romney, even though they would not vote for Obama. Read the full article including the below piece in bold.
Dem early voting totals being higher, which as I heard before the election day they were NOT, would not explain why millions less whites voted than in 2008.
Where things drop off are in the rural portions of Ohio, especially in the southeast. These represent areas still hard-hit by the recession. Unemployment is high there, and the area has seen almost no growth in recent years.
My sense is these voters were unhappy with Obama. But his negative ad campaign relentlessly emphasizing Romneys wealth and tenure at Bain Capital may have turned them off to the Republican nominee as well. The Romney campaign exacerbated this through the challengers failure to articulate a clear, positive agenda to address these voters fears, and self-inflicted wounds like the 47 percent gaffe. Given a choice between two unpalatable options, these voters simply stayed home.
This article says in white collar areas, turnout was good. In blue collar areas, it was way down. This article is the single BEST analysis of "what went wrong" I've seen so far and should be read in its entirety. Romney had a business career which was easily demonized, as was proven by both Ted Kennedy and Newt Gingrich. When you made your millions on companies that for whatever reason often went out of business and laid people off, that can easily be turned into political poison, and it was. This is something I warned people on here and other sites repeatedly about during the primary. It's not a crazy theory, it's something many people predicted would happen.
The Bain issue was an issue conservatives had a tin ear to, because they like capitalism, profit, and all that good stuff. But this was Romney’s true Achilles’ Heel when it came to a general election and swing voters.
Okay. Maybe it’s time for another robotics revolution. I’ll bet there are lots of union jobs we could automate.
It was white, working class men who think that Obama doesn’t care about them because they are white men and that Romney doesn’t care about them because he’s a rich man. My brother didn’t vote because of that reason. He said it didn’t matter because neither of them gave a sh!t about him.
10000%.....
Few are even bothering to look past the obvious story and actually look at the numbers and see what really happened. I don't pretend to know the answer. I have a job to do and a family to support so I have limited time to devote to an in depth analysis of the numbers. But I know something is wrong with the story. It doesn't add up. The most likely explanation is large scale voter fraud.
It amazes me how many FReepers just blindly accept the MSM/Democrat story line.
I say the missing GOP was there, but their votes were siphoned off to bama
It is a much easier road to travel.
You place an extremely high burden of proof for there being voter fraud. Observation is not proof but if observation is directly opposite of the supposed conclusion then something is wrong. The election results contradict what I and almost everyone else has observed. A logical person would ask why that is so. A logical person would not simply conclude that there could not possibly have been widespread voter fraud as you have done. A logical person would not make statements about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny
You have no proof there was NOT widespread voter fraud. Just say you don't know. It is more honest. It is more logical.
I agree 100%. Something is wrong. I don't know what happened but the numbers simply don't make sense.
It is a amazing that so many FReepers blindly accept the MSM story line.
I know that here in WI there was massive fraud. Many stories about it. They always truck Chicago thugs up to WI. This time the worst seems to have happened in Sheyboygan where van loads of Chicago Bears wearing black folks were flooding the Sheyboygan polls. Only when repubs called for help, did this stop. I heard that was around 3pm. They were encouraged to vote more than once of course.
Also heard of ACORN types using gov’t vans at our taxpayer expense, to round up Milwaukee voters, and take them to the polls. Who knows how many times each one voted.
Near the Illinois border in Delavan,WI, it was reported that poll workers were encouraging voters to commit fraud saying “go ahead and vote more than once, no one will stop you.”
I feel that these acts were dwarfed by voting machine manipulation by the democrat-commie party.
Abortion is their sacrament. No lesser crime against their fellow man bothers them in the least. They all sleep well no matter what horrific crimes they commit.
I think that's part of it Tony, but I think anti-Mormon bigotry cost Mitt most of the people who stayed home.
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