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To: PLK
If we continue to believe that the evangelical vote is our "base" and that we must have it to win, we will never win another election. I am personally pro-life and support traditional marriage, but I am also coming to terms with the fact that insistence on including them into our political platform is a losing proposition.

A lot of people are wrestling with this very thing.

The new generation is far more libertine and there is just no stopping that now. I still think our loss can be mostly attributed to rapidly changing demographics (Hispanics primarily) that want free stuff, but there is no doubt that the GOP is increasingly out of step with the new generation on social issues. I am in a suburban area and I am taken aback fairly often at how 20 somethings I run into regularly at the office and elsewhere won't even consider the GOP because of their social issue stands. I mean, these people have a stereotype of a Republican party that is backwards and they won't even consider aligning with it.

I don't know the answer here. I think you will probably start seeing Republicans opposing social order laws to attract the libertine younger crowd. Probably still going to be nominally pro-life, but I suspect Republicans will more and more back ending drug laws, gambling laws, prostitution laws, etc. Social order laws look increasingly doomed since there won't be anyone to support them among the major party's.

31 posted on 11/08/2012 5:53:35 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
I am in a suburban area and I am taken aback fairly often at how 20 somethings I run into regularly at the office and elsewhere won't even consider the GOP because of their social issue stands. I mean, these people have a stereotype of a Republican party that is backwards and they won't even consider aligning with it.

I was told on a thread once that socially liberal, fiscally conservative people didn't exist. Astounding blindness.

There are plenty of people on FR (perhaps even a majority" that live in a fantasy world that believes if Sarah Palin ran in 2016 with her top platform planks being making abortion illegal in all circumstances, banning gay marriage and re-banning homosexuality in the military, and getting prayer back in schools, that she would win because this mythical true conservative base would magically show up at the polls.

That's worse than Baghdad-Bob-ism.

34 posted on 11/08/2012 5:57:22 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Longbow1969

What is needed is another Great Awakening. America’s moral state was also highly perverted before these societal and spiritual events.

A remnant of godly people remain in this nation. Whether they are enough to keep us from experiencing judgement. I pray we do.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 6:12:20 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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