[Intolerant in NJ]

That is false. Moderates are also liberals and liberals are basically socialists...well, you're sort of right I guess - it is true that many people who describe themselves as moderate hold to essentially liberal values - as though it's so obvious they're correct in their views that everyone else must agree, and thus they're moderate - but my commment was to the fact that too many conservatives stayed home yesterday - ten million fewer people voted for Obama this time than in 2008, and had the same number of people voted for Romney as voted for McCain, he would have won the election - spite that Romney wasn't close enough to someone's philosophic idea of where he should be, simple inertia, or whatever, the need to know that they had done something major to try to keep Obama from having another four years to ruin this country just didn't seem important enough to get enough voters to the polls......

[evandi]

I was watching the individual counties on election day using Politico and seeing an improvement for Romney over McCain across the board in in counties in Virginia, Florida and North Carolina and the final vote counts there show that as well. Romney did improve turnout slightly in Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Colorado if those are the final numbers.

I see that he lost 100,000 votes in Ohio though and that’s a bit fishy.

I don’t know where else the difference in his final vote tally is. Perhaps its the Hurricane or people are just better at knowing in what states their votes don’t matter much. Though in some states perhaps it was a little fruad involved such as Pennsylvania.

One other thing to consider, though I doubt that is a large reason is that a lot of our vote is in the elderly and we obviously would have lost some elderly voters to natural causes in the last 4 years.

If it really is turnout somehow than great. But I don’t think that is the whole story.