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To: Ajnin
"I’m so sick and tired about seeing this bullshit about a comng civil war? It isn’t going to happen."

I agree. They're too soft and overly reliant on what they've seen on TV and circulated among themselves. They have no idea of what life in the field is like. They can't handle poverty and haven't really seen it. Secured tourist reserves in Third World countries don't count. Most of 'em aren't physically fit (understatement).

They're about to lose their civilian mechanized mobility for lack of funds from Uncle Samantha (austerity program about to begin). Nearly none of them have technical/engineering experience and lack ingenuity (bureaucrats, and all). They lack other skills that you and I are experienced with (if you did small arms--that is, infantry training). They don't like being uncomfortable enough to be effective.

Most of the remaining political hysteria is between two political parties comprised mostly of the more influential political constituents who depend on government for incomes. They've each taken sides based on which party promises each of their subgroups more of the debt.

As the monstrous pile of debt rises and becomes more worthless, they'll take "haircuts" on those incomes (as bond investors will). They're not the "makers" or producers that they claim to be. They're only screeching at each other over who gets most of the debt.

After those cuts in funding for their incomes, they'll be increasingly lacking in mobility and resources. They don't want to know the poverty in store for most of them, but they will.

We need a large manufacturing base to support fat, couch-potato bureaucrats and their kind. Many regulations (beginning with local ones) need to be repealed/abolished for that to happen. Manufacturing is where the real production happens (besides, farming, mining, drilling, etc.) for a great economy.

Members of the socialist, political/regulator class are good at starting cat fights with each other over the pile of debt, as we've seen. They might even gather on the streets to throw a few things at cops, as many debt/revenue-dependent Greeks have after their layoffs and funding/pension cuts. They insult and threaten from keyboards in their homes, but they won't start any kind of real civil war and don't really want one. Such an event wouldn't fit the little fictitious plays in their vainglorious imaginations.

The political/regulator class isn't smart enough or hard working enough to win so much as sustenance from real producers (manufacturers with shop employees on American soil, farmers, miners, all) in the long run. Real Americans, producing useful things with their minds and hands, will rebuild the economy. And there won't be any stinking "civil war"--only more squalor and helplessness than most can imagine, due to their own taking.

The real answer is deep cuts in government spending and abolitions/repeals of regulations, starting at local levels (e.g., county zoning ordinances against small manufacturing shops on lots more than five acres in the middle of nowhere). Then a high-speed rebuilding of the manufacturing base with inventions and innovations mostly coming from the small shops (larger pool of ingenuity without interference from contemporary academic, political or business so-called leadership).


66 posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:33 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.), Army National Guard, '89-'96)
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To: familyop

>> “The real answer is deep cuts in government spending and abolitions/repeals of regulations, starting at local levels (e.g., county zoning ordinances against small manufacturing shops on lots more than five acres in the middle of nowhere). Then a high-speed rebuilding of the manufacturing base with inventions and innovations mostly coming from the small shops (larger pool of ingenuity without interference from contemporary academic, political or business so-called leadership).” <<

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Short of some kind of war, how might you achieve that?

You will never see any cuts in government again. Government will grow exponentially for the forseeable future.


89 posted on 11/07/2012 6:58:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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