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1 posted on 11/07/2012 8:40:54 AM PST by TigerClaws
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Seriously?” Everyone on the planet predicted this (except the usual fools a/k/a Dick Morris). We just do not have the number of Republicans we used to have. Demographics are changing. America is moving decidedly Left. Until we stop sitting around blaming “magic” for our failures then we’ll be sitting alone and right soon.

We have GOT to stop listening to the Karl Roves and Fox News fools. We have GOT to stop listening to every single conspiracy theory that waddles down the path. (Yeah, that means birtherism). We have GOT to share our Conservative values and stop this little echo chamber we have. Let the LibTards do that.

But, hey ... yeah, I’m a closet liberal “eye roll”, but alll I know is I said from the beginning that Romney would get beaten and we’d lose seats in the Senate. I thought we’d lose more in the House but that was a pleasant surprise.

But, by all means, keep blaming magic and birth certificates. Liberals will love you for it. BTW, that Nation you see out there? It’s turning blue.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 8:55:17 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: TigerClaws
Before we start throwing to many rocks, was this an honest election?
We had better hope that it wasn't, otherwise this country is gone and there's nothing we can do about it.
37 posted on 11/07/2012 9:02:30 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: TigerClaws
It has nothing to do with Mormonism or RINOism.

The GOP had massive turnout yesterday, everyone reports this, much longer lines than 2008 for McCain. Therefor, it is impossible for Romney to get less votes than McCain.

So what happened? 3-4 million Republican Early Votes were discarded or destroyed in swing states.

Remember all last week, the story was that Ohio Republicans in 2012 had eliminated Obama’s early vote margins from 2008. Early votes, combined with massive turnout yesterday should equal a easy GOP win. But it didn't.

I'm telling your right now, millions of Republican early votes were discarded.

How else do you explain IN and NC, both states Obama barely won in 2008. The Obama camp knew IN was a lost cause in 2012, so they ignored it, no funny business, therefor Romney wins handily. Obama camp thought they had a chance in NC in 2012, so we get lots of funny business, GOP early votes eliminated, and Romney barely squeaks by. Same thing happened across other swing states.

Massive voter fraud!!

39 posted on 11/07/2012 9:02:48 AM PST by Falcon28 (Nobama 2012!)
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The Republican presidential candidate did not carry his home state.

The Republican vice presidential candidate did not carry his home state.

So, neither the P nor VP candidate brought any delegates to the table. Their ability to win depended entirely upon their ability to craft a message with broad national appeal and to get that message out to the public despite a hostile media. Anybody else see pipe dreams here?

Bankers are not businessmen. Bankers practice the art of unobtrusive proximity to commerce, take their cut, and focus on risk management. Mitt Romney is a banker, not a businessman.

Extremely poor candidate selection by the GOP in the US Senate races. The Senate should have changed hands last night. The Dems gained.

I want names. I want the names of the problem children at the RNC who need to find themselves in the unemployment line by close of business. I need to hear Limbaugh and Levin be very specific about who caused this. And then we need to rent an abattoir.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 9:04:53 AM PST by ameribbean expat
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Let’s not forget the effect of the Third-Party voters. In Ohio, the margin of victory for Obama was about 40,000 votes. Third-party votes cast numbered over 80,000. Not saying that this one episode would have changed to outcome, but it does show how voting Third-party usually ends up helping that candidate that you don’t want in office.


44 posted on 11/07/2012 9:05:23 AM PST by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
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Given what I’ve seen pre-election, I just can’t believe that voters didn’t turn out in droves for Mitt.

I suspect a massive undercount of republican votes.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 9:06:28 AM PST by Tigerized ("..and whack 'em, and whack 'em, and whack 'em!' cried the Toad in ecstasy." (also my 2012 strategy))
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Is it possible that we are just outnumbered?


49 posted on 11/07/2012 9:07:12 AM PST by Pushead (The highways of history are strewn with the wreckage of the nations that forgot God.)
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"Thoughts?"

To add for consideration: demographics.

The old conservative coalitions are dying off, be they the Silent Majority, Chrisitian Coalition, or Reagan Democrats. These folks had first hand experience with the Great Depression and the Second World War. These hardships instilled self reliance and love of country, traits that are disappearing in today's world. As such, this election may have been angry white man's last stand. America's culture has simply changed.

51 posted on 11/07/2012 9:10:11 AM PST by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: TigerClaws; Logical me; dila813
A nation robbed by "progressives" of its constitutional understanding--that is the primary reason! The secondary reason is the GOP's failure to use its billion-dollar campaign to focus like a laser on educating voters!

During the primary season, one of my FR posts stated the following in response to a Jonah Goldberg comment about Romney:

Sorry, Jonah, but this is not as simple as "not speaking the language (of conservatism) naturally." When a person is steeped in the ideas of Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Washington, it just "naturally" slips through in the ideas they convey. Remember Reagan?

Do Republicans seriously want to conserve America's constitutional principles? Or, are they just objecting to Democrats? Do they have a passion for liberty? Is this just about changing the Party in power, or is it about preserving freedom?

If their concern is for convincing enough voters to reject the idea of "a government big enough to give you everyting you want" and turn to advocacy for "a government small enough to allow you freedom to keep most of what you earn," then they'd better get busy seeing that someone is nominated who has been "marinated" (to use a word coined by Ingraham last night on "The Factor") in the Founders' ideas (isn't that what conservatives purport to "conserve"?).

So far (a/o February 2012), Mitt Romney, though a good man, demonstrates no such immersion. He has been "successful" in benefiting from those ideas, and he recites familiar words and phrases from patriotic speeches and songs, but that is different from understanding and being able to call up and articulate the philosophy which made such success possible.

Ronald Reagan's life and letters reveal that he had "immersed" himself in those ideas for years before he agreed to run for President, and that is why he could set "issues" in light of constitutional "principle." and explain his advocacy or rejection of solutions in by that light.

The other three candidates--Paul, Santorum, Gingrigh--couch their answers to questions in a manner which indicate personal pursuit and understanding of the Constitution's protections, each in his own way.

Of the two so-called "frontrunners," however, the lifetime history scholar, teacher, legislator, and participant in what was called "the Reagan revolution," appears to be the one most likely to be able to successfully articulate and distinguish those ideas to voters, if given the chance to compete with the "counterfeit ideas" of tyranny cloaked in righteous benevolence by Obama.

Is "politics as usual" to win the day, or might we not bring Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, and others who embrace founding principles together to help to create a "passion" for liberty among citizens sufficient to defeat the counterfeit ideas which are leading the Republic to ruin?

The following is excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," p. 181:

"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."

"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"

"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based." ---(End of excerpted material)

My call to the GOP is the same as then! To rediscover and recover liberty from the hands of those who are turning America into just another failing nation dominated by a government-over-people ideology, a determined and massive education effort should begin November 7, 2012, focused on the teaching of the fundamental principles essential to the survival of individual liberty for a people.

52 posted on 11/07/2012 9:10:31 AM PST by loveliberty2
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Unfortunately the sad truth is what has been coming for some time and the last two Republican Presidents (both named Bush) did nothing to stem this tide: new government programs, i.e. bank bailouts, auto bailouts, Americans with Disabilities Act, No Child Left Behind, just to name many AND having pro-abortionists, homosexuals and liberals running things behind the scenes.

Then, in my opinion only, beginning wars with terrorists countries but not fighting to win, fearing too much death and destruction against countries that want exactly that from us, giving military over to liberals, putting women on front lines and trying to hug our enemies rather than kill them, i.e. Germany & Japan.

Now we have more people in the wagon being pulled by those pulling the wagon.

Those in the wagon just voted for a newer, bigger, environmentally-friendly wagon but one without wheels!

54 posted on 11/07/2012 9:10:51 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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He who stands for nothing ends as nothing. Mitt stood for nothing. We need to sell America on a movement, not competency. Mitt was trying to sell American on the following: “Sure, Government sucks, but only because I am not in charge of it.” That argument fails just about everytime it is tried.

Oh, and on another note. . the economy no longer matters IF and I say IF, nobody feels the pain. Lesson to Republicans, stop extending jobless benefits.


55 posted on 11/07/2012 9:11:50 AM PST by FlipWilson
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He who stands for nothing ends as nothing. Mitt stood for nothing. We need to sell America on a movement, not competency. Mitt was trying to sell American on the following: “Sure, Government sucks, but only because I am not in charge of it.” That argument fails just about everytime it is tried.

Oh, and on another note. . the economy no longer matters IF and I say IF, nobody feels the pain. Lesson to Republicans, stop extending jobless benefits.


56 posted on 11/07/2012 9:12:08 AM PST by FlipWilson
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Give us your sources for your claim that Evangelicals stayed home. I don’t beleive that.


59 posted on 11/07/2012 9:14:58 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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Establishment RINO’s forced Romney on the conservatives by destroying the tea party candidates and others. This does not incite conservative Americans to support the RINO! Less conservatives voted in this election than voted for McCain, do the math!

Time for a third party!

67 posted on 11/07/2012 9:18:14 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We have been deserted by this WH and left to fend for ourselves in Afghanistan! Both hands tied!)
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turnout lower on both sides...not sure why

almost 129 million in 2008

around 117 million this time

Dem down 9 million

GOP down almost 3 million

hard to figure from that that it was simply GOP turnout down

enthusiasm gap for Romney almost 3 fold increase than that for Obama

but not enough

White vote up 4 points from 55-59

but latino and Oriental votes up as well...offsetting

it’s a new America

and it won’t last


84 posted on 11/07/2012 9:34:53 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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Ronald Reagan expended considerable effort to bring the Religious Right and other Social Conservatives into the GOP. Since then, the GOP has done its best to minimize their effect without quite driving them from the party.

Ultimately, all those Moderate voters that were promised from the move to the center failed to materialize - as usual.


87 posted on 11/07/2012 9:38:42 AM PST by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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They needed a power hitter or two down the stretch, they got a couple lean guys in slacks and nike running shooes.. frankly, no killer instinct at the end,, everyday should have been about ‘what happened in Benghazi, Mr. Pres__ent?’ day. Instead, kissing babies and hugging survivors.. and a chub of a gub paved the way.. that and flat indifference to Rinos by the few the proud the ‘Masada’ conservatives. :-}


90 posted on 11/07/2012 9:39:53 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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I've always known there was voter fraud, vacant lots and condemned buildings registering dozens of democrats, stolen ballots and identies...

But I saw ZERO reports of low turn out this time around. Instead, I deposited my absentee ballot (don't know why they keep sending them to me) as part of the largest crowd I've ever seen and my perception was seconded by an absolutely giddy veteran poll worker.

Now I'm told that 15 million voters stayed home?!

No one needs tinfoil; those aren't voices in your head, I'm araid that they are legitimate and objective observations.

93 posted on 11/07/2012 9:41:57 AM PST by norton
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People’s intentions are only known to the Lord (often, people’s intentions are barely known even to themselves). Having said that,
people can be presumed to have intended the obvious or foreseeable consequences of their actions, or inactions.

That millions of Republican voters did not bother to cast a ballot (again!) could mean that they (consciously or not) WANT America to continue to be subverted, undermined, and eventually destroyed by BHusseinO and his “death to America” Islamicist and communistic comrades. They are, after all, well along already with their “God-d*mn Anerika!” agenda....

Think: Freud’s “Death Wish” or drive...

We are, my friends, in bigger trouble than we may have imagined....


96 posted on 11/07/2012 9:46:25 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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I am still trying to process Megyn Kelly and BAirs almost “giddy” attitude when Zero WON!!!!!!!...

No hint of sadness there.. and O’Really quite happy as well..
WOndor WHOM at the post offices is in charge of trashing millions of absentee ballots..
WHo would know.?... there is no way of checking..

There are no poll watchers at the post office..


99 posted on 11/07/2012 9:47:17 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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