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To: SoCalTransplant

In NJ women were allowed to vote from the earliest time. Then around 1810 some man who kept losing because he thought women were voting against him managed to drum up support that they would lose the franchise by 1820.

It’s true.

Despite the standard history in school which teaches that “women got the right to vote in 1920” even while they teach us that somehow, “the 1st place to allow women to vote was Wyoming” (false) c.1870.

So yes, the very founding generation was allowing non-property-owning-white-males to vote. It just wasn’t universal.


175 posted on 11/08/2012 1:27:12 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Ok, I’ll take you at your word, but you are still talking about one state, so I dont think that disputes the claim that the founders didn’t intend for it. I’d say thats more an exception to the rule. But, by design or coincidence, it seems like there are more and more people out of those groups that largely were not voting in elections involving Washington, Jefferson and Madison that are voting now, and propelling us toward the nanny state.

I’m not really in favor of going back to only allowing white males to vote, but I do think there are far, far too many people voting, and at the very least those that do should be required to have some skin in the game...like having paid taxes at least once in your lifetime. Of course, obvious exceptions would apply (lifelong disabled comes to mind). But it certainly shouldn’t be that once you get to 18 and have a pulse you get a say writing checks out of the national checkbook. The problem is, now that we’ve given them the right, and they’ve figured out how to milk the taxpayer, how do we turn it around?


180 posted on 11/12/2012 10:26:33 PM PST by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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