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To: Mr Rogers
I am not saying Hispanics are currently inclined to vote GOP. However, they DO have a strong emphasis on family, and MANY believe in hard work and saving. The GOP cannot win without them, and we cannot pander to them and still hold true to conservatism - so that means we need to reach out to Hispanics WITH STRONG, CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND ARGUMENTS.

Pure nonsense. How do you explain the 50% out of wedlock birthrates for Hispanics? Or the high school drop out rate? There seems to be some idealized view by some in the GOP that although Hispanics vote two to one against Reps, there is really a "pony in there" in terms of conservatism. The fact is that most are natural Dem constituents and they vote their own self interest.

Table 6 reports welfare use based on the legal status of the household head. The estimates show that 51.8 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one major welfare program in 2009. For households with children headed by an illegal immigrant, 71 percent are estimated to use at least one program.

Why do we continue to bring in 1.2 million legal immigrants every year while we have 23 million Americans looking for full-time employment? Take a look at the chart below and tell me why the decade that ended in 2010 was the highest in our history in terms of immigration while we had a net loss of jobs? We have 40 million foreign born in this country.

Finally, there is no such thing as an Hispanic. It is an artificially contrived victim group pushed by the Dems so they can provide them with such things as affirmative action and minority business set asides. 54% of Hispanics self-describe themselves as white.

There is nothing we can do to reach out to Hispanics that would be different than our appeal to everyone else. It is not the failure to convey our message, but rather, a failure to understand why they choose to be Democrats. We need to limit our immigration numbers and to go from a kinship system to a merit based system.

172 posted on 11/07/2012 11:24:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

I’m in southern Arizona. I drive thru western Tucson regularly. I’m not blind to the problems in the Hispanic community - which in Tucson is mostly a Mexican immigrant community.

But I’m also not blind to values of hard work and family, both of which are also very evident. Those values can be used to TEACH conservatism.

Mexicans come from Mexican culture, and in Mexico, hard work alone won’t get you far because the rich WILL oppress you. At some level, they understand America has opportunity, but they don’t understand how much opportunity. We need to connect with them that education is an important part of getting ahead, and that they don’t need to settle for less because there aren’t any rich racists here to oppress them.

I’m not claiming this is a crop waiting to be harvested, and certainly not by pandering to illegal immigration and just putting a hispanic on the ticket. It means looking at what common ground we share, and then building on it.

But if you want to just ignore them, you’ll get your butt handed to you - like we did this time. And it will only get worse unless we do something. It won’t cut it to sit on our butts and moan that whites no longer dominate our country. Like it or not, we don’t - and never will again. Dreaming of 1950 isn’t going to make it better.


177 posted on 11/07/2012 12:26:36 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit.)
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