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1 posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:13 AM PST by SJackson
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If the Republican Party wants to win, then it has to embrace the right and learn to get angry again.

Well said, though it falls on deaf ears. What a shame.

FMCDH(BITS)

113 posted on 11/07/2012 7:15:44 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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This loss goes a long ways to showing how the mainstream Republican Party is so far out of step it is with the American people and their values. Yet they still cling to their base of rotting unprincipled moderates and outright liberals. This loss is of absolutely no surprise to me for I knew in my heart that given a choice between liberal-lite and liberal-real the electorate would take the real deal given that choice. Christians will be the biggest losers resulting from 4 more years of the beast in power.


120 posted on 11/07/2012 7:30:15 AM PST by Ron H. (Pray America, we're gonna need it!)
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A public bookmark for this excellent article. This should be required reading for everyone claiming either conservatism or Republicanism as a political philosophy.

The Republican Party needs to either embrace its base or die. And at this point I really don’t care which option it chooses.


124 posted on 11/07/2012 7:41:39 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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The most important lesson that needs to be RAMMED down the throats of the Establishment GOP Moderate wing is that Romney failed to take his own state. He lost HUGE in Massachusetts (61-37%). If the Moderate Republican approach cannot remotely compete in a state where the candidate was actually elected, then clearly it cannot be used as a path to success anywhere else!! The Moderate Path did not pull ANYONE from the Left in MASS, and drove away MANY on the right in every other state. Do you get it now????? We need to win the Independents (30% of registered voters) and the disillusioned who do not vote anymore (40% of eligible voters). THAT is where the majority coalition is to be built, not in trying to out-Dem the Dems.

But sadly, the lesson may just be too late in getting learned. This one was a BIG loss. Either the GOP-led House steps up, or else we are all going to be witnesses to the end of the American Experiment. *sigh*

131 posted on 11/07/2012 7:49:01 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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The Tea Party is “inoffensive,” except for fiscally, and has no room for criticism on this and neither does Frontpage Magazine for the Tea Party.

It is difficult to understand where the Frontpage or the Tea Party is coming from on this, since the TPs are secularists themselves and refuse to embrace God the Creator and His laws and refuse to claim our founding Christian heritage. Is it any wonder they(the GOP nor the TP) have no blessings from God to succeed?

Social issues matter.


133 posted on 11/07/2012 8:00:00 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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He tried to be Reagan confronting Carter, but what was remarkable about Reagan, is that he had moments of anger and passion; electric flashes of feeling that stirred his audience and made them believe that he understood their frustrations. That was the source of Reagan’s moral authority and it was entirely lacking in Romney. And without that anger, there is no compelling reason to vote for an opposition party.

BTTT

135 posted on 11/07/2012 8:13:47 AM PST by GOPJ
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The Tea Party did well until June 2011, when Obama positioned it between the American people and their free stuff (government checks) during a time of depression. Clinton had done the same thing to Gingrich in January 1996, and it had the same effect. The Republican Revolution from the 1994 election lasted barely a year before Clinton defanged it, and the Tea Party revolution from the 2010 election lasted barely five months before Obama defanged it.

Since then, the Tea Party brand has been poisonous, and the Republican Establishment did the correct thing in running away from it. Look at the Tea Party losses last night! Americans are no longer socially conservative. Americans are walking away from organized religion. Americans like liberty in the abstract, but not when it gets in the way of free stuff. Liberty is too risky for a people who have accepted the role of government taking care of them -- and the yoke that comes with it!

Brutal fact: The moochers and looters now outnumber the producers, and they have the numbers to vote themselves what they perceive as being their fair share of other people's wealth. The moral and ethical basis of America is gone and has been replaced with something foreign.

To get people to accept radical change, they have to believe that their backs are against the wall. Reagan did that in 1980 when we were besieged at home by stagflation and abroad by the Soviets and Iranians. Giuliani did it in New York in 1993, but New York had to reach rock bottom, crash through that bottom, and find a whole new bottom before New Yorkers were willing to give up a century of liberalism. Thanks to government lies (economic statistics), backed with the Mainstream Media promulgating those lies, people didn't believe that radical change of that kind was necessary, especially when the current government promised more and more free stuff.

Only when the current corrupt system collapses, when the dollar is no longer accepted in international trade, when our military is sent packing from its hundreds of outposts in the world, when the nation no longer possesses the wealth from which to distribute free stuff, only then will events reach the point where people will look at radical change and be ready to accept it.

143 posted on 11/07/2012 8:26:16 AM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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This is twice that the GOP leadership made wrong decisions and went nowhere. It’s time for the Rove-Bush-McClean clique to get kicked out of the GOP.

Even though I respect religious beliefs, based on the blogs I’ve seen and the grass root liberal postings on the internet, I see a few things that turned me off, and more than likely turned off enough others to change the election results:

1. Too much emphasis on religious beliefs - from the right
2. Too much focus on overturning Roe v Wade
3. No real counter-attack for the war on women. They fear that some of their feminine rights would be taken away, and there were no effective counter-arguments
4. Lilly-Ledbetter - no active counter-argument to the negative lies
5. So many lies about so many issues were propogated by the left, and were left unresponded.
6. Bain Capital. All we heard about were the people who got fired and that jobs were shipped overseas. There were never any contradictory arguments to these statements.

I’ve voted in every presidential election since 1968, and I learned this time, that although the internet is a good communication medium, it was also a terrible communication medium for this election. Facebook, Twitter... so many of the ads put out by the Republicans were never read by the opposition. There were not enough numbers presented in chart format.


151 posted on 11/07/2012 9:21:33 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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Its good article.... but I cannot get past two things... we have 60 million Americans that are settling for averageness and lower expectations... that its ok if America is no longer the greatest nation, the greatest military, the greatest ideals.... secondly, the MEDIA... they have made a mockery of JOURNALISM... JOURNALISM no longer exists. They gave this President a pass and the allowed his campaign and surrogates to demonize a good, honorable and decent man that could have made a difference... a man of character, a man that understands the true American way.

I am tired of hearing even from those within the GOP... “we have to move to the center, we can't be so radical in our positions on gay marriage, abortion and other equality issues... “... I don't mean that we can't have honest discussion... I understand the gay marriage issue (yeah, I know, not popular here) but I do support the notion of civil union, but marriage is something between a man and woman. Why does the right have to move more to the center? When the left is asked, they cry racism, misogynist, homophobic... etc. Its sickening.

To see nearly an entire black community vote for Obama, I can only believe that many of those votes were completely based upon skin color and NOT the competency of the man, but that racism is OK for this country. I firmly believe that Mitt lost many votes because of his faith... but no one will talk about that discrimination....ITs sickening.

Sadly, 12 million less voters in this election... is anyone asking why? I will not accept that WE ran a bad campaign... we ran a good campaign... we appealed to 57 million... but the far left had their willing conspirator in the media, and hollyweird working overtime, lying, manipulating, and doing it towards a group of people that are easily fooled, tricked and lead.

How far away is this nation from a civil war and or other radical violence. I am afraid for this country, and its future. We, for the first time in our 236 year history are handing over this country to my kids generation (20 year olds) and to my grand children, a nation that is in far worse shape then when it was handed to us.

I am confident though that this nation will return to the faith-filled, conservative values that it once had... but sadly, there is much pain to endure until that happens and a greater fall from God's grace.

156 posted on 11/07/2012 9:50:13 AM PST by Heff (59 million voted on bias.)
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Please.. Voter fraud got 0bama elected. Romney ran a brilliant campaign in the context of today’s demographics but when votes for Romney are either discarded or not counted, how can you win? 55% of females voting for their sexual fantasy with Barack didn’t help either. America is lost. Does ANYONE think this country will be recognizable in four years? It’s BARELY recognizable from four years ago!!


157 posted on 11/07/2012 9:50:55 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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Something I read

"One thing that seems quite evident that not many if any are considering; the right maintained control of the House of Representatives where every seat was up for the consideration of voters.

IF like the electoral college applies to the States it as well applied to Congressional districts (as it does in Nebraska for example) THEN Obama would have lost. Unlike Senators & The President, Representatives are not elected based upon a statewide popular vote.

In summary, the collective regionally concentrated mobs elected Obama. It was the mob in key areas in key states that was mobilized.

The Right focused upon message which was often filtered by the leftist media.

The Left focused upon the logistics of getting voters to the polls in key areas."

159 posted on 11/07/2012 10:08:44 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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The Tea Party could have gotten it right and could have made a huge impact if they had stuck to the NO BAILOUTS and fiscal conservative message ... and that’s it.

They could have been a contender. Maybe they still can if they get their heads out.


160 posted on 11/07/2012 10:22:16 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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The Tea Party could have gotten it right and could have made a huge impact if they had stuck to the NO BAILOUTS and fiscal conservative message ... and that’s it.

They could have been a contender. Maybe they still can if they get their heads out.


161 posted on 11/07/2012 10:26:16 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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The Hillary Mitt of Massachusetts was nothing more than a Puppet for the financial fascists and their government gravy train,and a bunch of other gravy train government users, who got a free 08 bailout, while unemployment skyrocketed.

The youth smelled right through the scam, and are not interested in another Bush war.


164 posted on 11/07/2012 10:32:40 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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Romney kept talking about working w/Democrats. That moderate crap didnt inspire enough voters plus he didnt counter Obama lies with a boatload of commercials. The RNC keeping those millions instead of spending it on ads was a fail.


168 posted on 11/07/2012 10:51:27 AM PST by RginTN
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bump


169 posted on 11/07/2012 10:53:42 AM PST by Christian4Bush (The USSA. Born 7/4/1776. Committed suicide 11/6/2012.)
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Maybe I’ll get flogged, but I cam to love and admire Mitt Romney. It breaks my heart that he will not be our President. But the campaign SHOULD have been won.
Despite the fact that Mitt suffered an endless barrage of assault ads, his campaign drove his positives WAY up, as with me. What they failed to do was drive Obama’s negatives UP. They nibbled around the edges with their own attacks on the Punk, and treated voters as mature, informed adults. This would prove to be a fatal mistake. When talking about Obama, you must deal with the average voter as a 3rd grader. No one understands why his policies are destroying America, and those same idiots decided, in a void, that their troubles were still BUSH’s fault. This tragedy could have been so easily avoided. *sigh* Bob


173 posted on 11/07/2012 12:08:02 PM PST by alstewartfan ("I'm a graduate of rock&roll, Class of '58!" Al Stewart)
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I said at the start of the primaries that Mitt was the least electable candidate:

Romneycare - too similar to Obama Care
Bain Capital -easy to exploit as Vulture Capital
UAW opposition especially important in some swing states
Unacceptable to the base especially social conservatives
Inability to articulate the conservative message

Romney won the primary not by crafting a positive vision or explanation, but by running very negative, inflammatory ads of questionable veracity. His claim to fixing the economy was: I ran a successful company and I know what to do.

He allowed Obama to define his plan as the same old policies that got us here to begin with. He allowed Obama to define him in the Swing states as a vulture capitalist, unfriendly to the Auto Industry, and concerned only about avoiding taxes on the 1%.

Given the importance of the economy, he needed to articulate in simple terms what his economic policy would be, why it would work better than Obama, and how it was different from Bush(or at least why Bush's policies were not to blame).

The Pubbies in Congress are partly to blame for allowing the Democrats to get by with laying this blame on Bush for the melt down. They need to take a page from Pelosi.

As soon as the market crashed, she hopped on it like a junk yard dog - this is the fault of Bush's policies. That should have been refuted on a daily basis.

Obama gets by with claiming that rich people like Romney and Buffet only pay Federal taxes based on Capital Gains of 15%; It is actually more like 45%, because his share of the corporate rate is around 30%.

No one explained that the Buffet Rule would not have caused Buffet to pay more taxes: Buffet keeps his individual salary at $100,000 and usually less than $75,000 for director fees.(less than $200,000).

He would still be calculating his rate as less than his secretary, because he assigns the employer part of payroll tax to her, and ignores his share of the corporate tax.

No one in the National leadership ever gets out there and explains effectively the truth or counter the Democrats lies, and Romney didn't do it either.

174 posted on 11/07/2012 12:13:26 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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The most annoying part of all this..I mean other than 0 bankrupting/destroying America and putting lifetime radicals in SC,is he will never be held accountable.
Even WHEN the whole calapses during his next term.
He promised, PROMISED, he would cut the deficit in half his first four years in office.
What does a promise mean anymore??? Or, the truth for that matter..?


178 posted on 11/07/2012 12:25:42 PM PST by Leep (Are you smarter than a 7th grade math student and or Barack 0bama?)
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There’s not a Republican on this planet that would have won...not a conservative, libertarian or RINO stood a chance against the entitlement society. The majority of this country voted based on their envy of others while the rest of us voted for our country.

You can’t best the devil at his own game.


180 posted on 11/07/2012 12:34:10 PM PST by JenB987 (I'm still an American and 'til they take that away from me there's no day ruined. - El Rushbo)
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