Posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:54 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Good catch on the date. Probably a TBL troll or retread rather than a DUmmie IMO.
We need to start a third party. We could call it Constitution Party. All evangelicals and fiscal conservatives belong to this party. The Republican Party will consist of republicans.
Thank you for being faithful to document what is often unknown or denied.
TBL still lives..now that is something to laugh about
Applause.
Fantastic FR political friends. Someday (not to soon) we need to meet at the pearly gates for a tea party.
“You really know nothing about mormonISM do you.”
Yeah...I was a Baptist living in Utah for 7 years and never learned ANYTHING about it! All those 3-4 hours discussions/debates and I didn’t learn a thing.
“Joseph Smith was clear obey or the sword.”
I had a number of Mormon friends who were told to stop being friends with me due to our conversations, but the LDS church never put out a contract on me.
You are a nutjob.
Thank you for speaking up, and from experience, although no doubt you’ll be castigated for it.
Yes it is. and I expect that Spammy et all are over there complaining about us.
Oh well, I don’t do this to be liked, I do this because the truth needs to be told.
Mormonism not anti-mormon bigotry is a distinction without a difference. I'd rather the Mormon over the Muslim Marxist any day.
> I can’t help but think that this is God’s judgment on us.<
Indeed, that is what I have said. Having to choose btwn a Mormon whose faith teaches men can become gods (as they say God progressed from being a man), and a man whose ideology makes the liberal elite as gods, is indeed a judgment.
As with Israel of old, blindness in part has happened to America.
“Israel hath cast off the thing that is good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. “ (Hosea 8:3-4)
“I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing. “ (Hosea 8:12)
But God changeth not, and we are yet given grace to seek and to serve Him, and the focus must be on us being a “holy nation,” occupying till He comes. Mayberry is not coming back.
I do not disagree with voting for Romney, as you work with what you have, while also affirming those who would not vote for him out of conscience toward God.
But as for the other things, Rome herself considers Mormonism was outside the body of Christ, which she now (unlike the past) affirms includes baptized Scripture type Prots (Lumen Gentium), even though she excludes the strongest of them as being part of a church proper.
While as for you upholding freedom of religion, this was not true in the past under Rome, which even restricted free access to Scripture. (http://peacebyjesuscom.blogspot.com/2011/09/contradictions-in-roman-catholicism.html)
Live the Bible don’t hit people over the head with it is my motto.
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With 90% of unbelievers I agree with this statement wholeheartedly and that is the approach I take with them. My best friend grew up athiest and a few years ago had a radical born again conversion experience. That is the approach I took with her.
However, when you are dealing with pseudo-Christian cults (and their are specifics that classify them that way) like Mormons or JWs, you won’t get anywhere at all with the approach because they will just agree and say ‘oh we believe that too’ when in reality they may used Christian vocabulary but a different dictionary. They redefine basic terms like “God”, “Savior”, “Salvation”, “Atonement”, “Heaven”, “Grace”. If you don’t compare the Biblical gospel to Mormonsim (or JWs) then they are perfectly happy saying “we believe that too” (even if they don’t) and “see we are Christians too” even though they really do follow a different Christ. You have to point out to them the differences and that makes them angry. It doesn’t matter HOW you say something, the fact that you are not agreeing with their doctrine completely is ‘hate speech’. It is, at times, frustrating, but necessary to show them how their doctrines are NOT Biblical (and I can give you a list of really good sources that explain this in detail). You must first get a Mormon(or JW) to see that their group is not ‘the only true church on the face of the earth’ before you can begin to show them who Christ really was and what Grace really is.
I have pinged several other people who used to be Mormon and are now Christians who will tell you they came out the exact same way. A couple of others have been in ministry to the Mormons for several years and have experience exactly what I am saying. We are not hateful, but we are bold, because boldness in NECESSARY. We don’t hate Mormons, we love them enough to tell them the truth. Nothing breaks our heart more than when an LDS friend or family member dies, not knowing Christ. If we hated them, we would just leave them alone and not bother with being called names, being despised (as someone else on this thread said about me), the death threats from them, the frustration. To be honest, it would be a whole lot easier to just let them be and say we don’t care but we DO care, we care more than most because we put up with their abuse for the cause of Christ.
Check out a few episodes of “heart of the Matter” (HOTM.TV) and you will see what I am talking about.
I will check to see if I can find the clip you mentioned on exit polls.
Generally, Mormon or no, what would you think of your next-door neighbor if they announced to you...
(a) They facilitated a LOT of abortions, including paying for many of them in your neighborhood;
(b) They deemed themselves to be a "god in embryo" -- and told you frankly that one day some of the praise, worship, glory and even prayers directed to THE God would be "drained" a bit toward him;
(c) And he made $25,000 a year by being on the Board of Directors of a local theater that made most of their $ up front morally ... but conceded that part of that $25,000 came from the porn-show entrance in the back into one of their screening rooms?
Now, it's true (a), (b), and (c) might not apply to ALL Mormons [(b) for example, applies only to temple Lds]...
...but the "morals and integrity" that might be present in some Lds isn't reflective of the above, which has applied to Mitt Romney!
In fact, (b) shows a LOT of pride, arrogance, and hubris; (c) shows a lack of business integrity; and (a) depicts Romney as being hand-in-hand with the baby dismemberment industry...
Note: (C) references Romney's long-time board of directors position with Marriott Hotel & its XXX-rated in-room showings...Even the Mormon church-owned Deseret News newspaper critiqued Romney in July of '07 for his linkage to the porn industry.
Prior to 2008, I was a "broken glass republican", now I'm a broken glass voter.
I'd still crawl over broken glass to vote for a conservative but no political party owns my vote.
I didn't say Romney is perfect. But, given the choice between the only two candidates who had a chance to win, Romney and a socialist who was mentored by socialists/Marxists/communists and surrounds himself with socilaists/Marxists/communists, I chose Romney.
As good a depiction of Romney as any I've seen, keep up the good work.
Yeah, I'm back.
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