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To: PetroniusMaximus

I didn’t actually nail it completely. I called 290EV (possibly 303EV) and Obama +1.8%.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2955102/posts?page=137#137

I didn’t think Obama had any way in hell to get Florida, still close, but it looks like he will pull it off. Nate Silver did call Florida a few days before the election when the average of polls said different and so did every conservative AND liberal pundit and columnist in the country. As much as I hate to say it, I have to tip my hat to his brain. I do not have the proprietary model equations he came up with but as a scientist, I’d LOVE to see them. He really is the best in the business....he blew everyone out of the water 3 elections in a row now.

Back to your point though, I said that we may do big in 2014 for a very simple reason. Historically, the out-party ALWAYS gains seats in the midterms and right now we already have a very, very significant majority in the House. Adding more will make the House an incredible force at the bargaining table and give the House the mandate in 2014....just like 1998 did.

BUT! I already see some trouble on the horizon. Mitch McConnell came out today swinging and fired quite a shot across Obama’s bow and that could be bad news. He said something (and I’m paraphrasing) like Obama better not try to put something on the table that won’t pass the House. McConnell is up for re-election in 2014 and there are already strong forces in Kentucky moving to primary him. If he thinks of his own skin first, he could screw us.

With a nice cushion of 55 seats in the Senate and the entire Executive, the dems have a lot of leverage to make the House conservatives look unreasonable and dangerous. If the House Republicans pull another 2010 debt ceiling showdown, that will kill us, I mean really kill us.

Obama successfully painted them as obstructionists and the Republican house approval ratings plummeted. Now you can get away with that right after a midterm but not right before. If they do that in first few months of 2013 to force Obama’s hand on a number of issues, it will be ok. If they pull that type of thing in latter 2013 or seem even slightly unreasonable in 2014, Obama, the Senate and their cheerleaders in the media will destroy the conservative house brand and we could have a wave in the other direction.

The only thing that could soften that wave is the fact that 2010 was a major redistricting year and Republican Governors and statehouses carved some nice lines for us. In addition, liberals are living closer together and more densely in large cities which limits their House representation. Conservatives are more spread out in suburbs, exurbs and rural areas so our House districts are more broad and difficult to lose.

Anyway....that’s all amateur conjecture but I think 2014 will be ok as long as we give do what Reagan did, give up 20% of our agenda to gain 80%. But with such a shitty Senate situation, we may have to give up slightly more.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 8:12:14 PM PST by jackmercer
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To: jackmercer

Tip of the hat to you....great job. For some reason I did not see your work out here on FR before the election. Lol, I don’t know if I would have believed it:)


29 posted on 11/07/2012 8:26:11 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: jackmercer

Silver got 2008 and 2012. Was he on the money in 2004 as well?


30 posted on 11/09/2012 10:18:56 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: jackmercer

I try to be realistic too so I did not want to believe some of the more pessimistic projections. In any case I was not too surprised we lost but I hoped it would be closer, and a couple more states (FL especially) would have flipped back just so there would be more optimism about next time. The net loss of 2 Senate seats is disastrous. I had thought if they held on to at least 47 there would be a good chance they’d get up to 51 in 2014 but now I am much less hopeful there. How bad do things have to get for the Dems for them to lose 6 seats? I guess it’s possible since it happened in 2010 but I hope they have as bad a “6 year itch” election as the GOP had in 2006.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 4:37:15 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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