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I know there are a lot FReepers who work or have worked on farms. I've slopped hogs and fed chickens a summer or two myself, but never had to deal with anything like a sticky grain silo. I'm curious as to everyone's insight on this one.
1 posted on 10/30/2012 3:27:09 AM PDT by DemforBush
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What seems to be needed here is not more regulation, but some new technology.

The idea that a man (boy) must go inside these things to loosen stuck corn/grain is ludicrous. Most farms today have millions of dollars of equipment, yet they store their product in antiquated, dangerous silos.

Some way of vibrating a silo might be a solution. Vibration would settle the grain, shake the stuff off the sides, & safely collapse false domes/bridges. Yeah, it might cost some money, but so do dead workers & over-regulation.

This is America! Fix it!

35 posted on 10/30/2012 5:39:24 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Living on the south-side of Chicago is a death trap, but the NYT doesn’t cry about that.


36 posted on 10/30/2012 5:41:29 AM PDT by txrefugee
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I had a pal in the Navy that was a farmer and he told me a story of a storm that blew the top loose on their corn silo. After several weeks the water seeped to the bottom apparently fermented puddles formed at the base and the chickens drank heavily from the puddles. His mother looked out side and saw all her chickens dead. Instead of wasting them she plucked them for the stew pot. As she plucked the last chicken the already plucked flock began to come out of their drunken stupor. She had a flock of naked chickens running around. ( I don't know if the story is true, but it sure gave me a good laugh.)
37 posted on 10/30/2012 5:43:16 AM PDT by spudville
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That the deaths persist reveals continuing flaws in the enforcement of worker safety laws and weaknesses in rules meant to protect the youngest farmworkers.

The answer to every problem is government when you're the government.

39 posted on 10/30/2012 5:50:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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I don’t think we need big government on the farm, but farmers need a healthy lesson in industrial safety. Nearly all farm deaths are really industrial accidents and basic safety precautions could have prevented them. Just from the stories FReepers have mentioned;
1. Suspended load violations.
2. Confined space violations.
3. Material handling violations.
4. Chemical/Hazmat/MSDS violations.


40 posted on 10/30/2012 5:58:51 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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The annual number of such accidents rose throughout the past decade, reaching a peak of at least 26 deaths in 2010, before dropping somewhat since.

How many deaths caused by printing presses in the United States in 2010? I'll bet on more.... And murders in Chicago - Philly and LA's inner cities? That would be more than 26 in a week... every week - every week for years... No one in flyover needs 'pity' from the hateful New York Times.

41 posted on 10/30/2012 6:03:27 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To add my own story;
In 1974, a friend lost his father and brother to an ammonia leak. It was a Catholic school, so the entire school walked across the street to the viewing and then we had the funeral during class hours later that day. Very sad times for that family.


42 posted on 10/30/2012 6:06:41 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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WOW! I am saddened when I hear of incidents like this happening. Silo/grain elevator work is dangerous.
Used to live in Sterling and went to school with Tommy’s relatives,worked on the farms in the Standish /Sterling area. Silo’s/grain elevators/grain storage are hot, dusty, and many times cause’s one to lose sense of direction.
My sincere heartfelt condolences go out to the Osier family.


44 posted on 10/30/2012 6:34:25 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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Silos do blow up from time to time, too.

So do grain bins.

Methane gas is a problem, but dust is the worst.


45 posted on 10/30/2012 6:35:45 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. And I just Hope they don't like it!)
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I've worked a lot on farms and will say you don't do stupid and you don't send some kid to do stupid. And I've seen a few people die because they didn't keep that in mind.

It's not just silos. I've seen loggers stand on the pile of logs and kick at them to start them rolling. Once in awhile they couldn't get off the pile fast enough. Or air up the old split rims on trucks without a cage. And you thought Oddjobs hat would take your head off, imagine a heavy steel ring doing the same thing.

48 posted on 10/30/2012 6:45:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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I spent my youth on a farm in Kansas and spent some time inside the round silos. The stored grain will get damp and develpes a crust so when the farmers remove the grain from the bottom of the silo, the crust holds in place and must be ‘stomped on’ to get it to the auger in the bottom of the silo. The grain is then taken to a drying station and returned after dried. I lost an uncle when he fell through the crust and it collapsed in on top of him and he suffocated.


51 posted on 10/30/2012 7:59:31 AM PDT by thomase
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When you work inside a silo make sure to drag along a garden hose secured outside the silo at the level where you are working. As long as you have oxygen, you have life. Wheat is even more dangerous than corn, because grain is small and weighs more.

When I was scheduled to clean out the silos, I would go to our garden first and gather up as many water hoses as necessary. I'd carry then up to the bin and then drop them into the bin.

I worked with three other guys that called me all kinds of nasty names. After a man died in Bloomington inside a grain silo, I noticed they started carrying hoses to work too!

63 posted on 10/30/2012 12:08:54 PM PDT by STD (“Cogito, ergo armatum sum)
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