It’s four to one - the cameraman’s on the Obama team (will someone please do an analysis of how long each man was on the screen? Ryan has to share the screen with Biden - unless he smirks... Biden gets the screen to himself), the moderator is a liberal and shows it (not as bad as I had assumed), Biden, and someone in the audience who tells Biden when to ramp up emotion and when to lower it. He looks at the person when Ryan talks... Charming. And eff the cameraman ...
Joe and Ryan have all said to much on foreign policy and domestic policy.
I trust neither at this point.
I will vote for Ryan and the folks down stream and hope to avoid duplicitous snakes like Obama and Biden