High Stakes Ryan-Biden Bout Could Seal Deal for Romney

Newsmax ^ | 08 Oct 2012 | David A. Patten

[kingattax]

President Barack Obama’s perilous drop in the polls following last week’s shaky debate performance sets the scene for an extraordinary moment in presidential politics: A vice presidential debate that could play a major role in the outcome in November.

If Vice President Joe Biden can prevail in his 90-minute face-off against GOP foe Rep. Paul Ryan, it could turn the media narrative and help repair some of the damage incurred by the weak Obama showing on Oct. 3.

But the savvy Ryan, who gobbles up dense budgetary reports as if they were dime novels, will try to replicate the political jiu-jitsu Romney performed against Obama. If he succeeds, it could go a long way toward convincing swing-state independent voters not to wait to see what four more years under Obama would bring.

[bmwcyle]

Biden is their great white hope? HAHAHAHAHAHA

[workerbee]

Biden will be at his most condescending, sarcastic, vicious arrogance, and Martha lets-pretend-I’m-an-objective-moderator Raddatz will give him plenty of leeway to use it. I hope Ryan’s ready.

[mosaicwolf]

Biden is in the same position as Obama.

You can't defend the defenseless.

[soccergirl]

I’m from Delaware and am very familiar with Joe Biden. I am a conservative Republican and have watched then Senator Biden for 20 plus years. I believe America is in for a surprise Thursday night. The expectations are that Biden will say something stupid or be left wanting at the feet of Paul Ryan. Joe Biden is one of the best politicians in the country and will not be made the fool. I’ve never voted for him, but I respect the man like no other.

[albie]

Biden will study the wrong notes and be his usual bizarre out of touch with reality ass hat that he always has been.

Ryan: “I’ll grow our economy again like Reagan”.”

Biden: “I knew John Kennedy. Worked with John Kennedy. You sir are no John Kennedy.”

Ryan; “WTF!?”

[MrDem]

Ryan knows that and said he is not underestimating Biden. I predict a modest win for Ryan that the press will tout as a win for Biden.

[13Sisters76]

I remember the Quayle/Benson debate very well. It STILL makes me burn. Lloyd Benson was a nasty old man that makes Reid look like...well...a Mormon! The fact that he was up against such a decent, polite man as Dan Quayle must have had that old goat drooling. When he made his snarky, now famous, below the belt remark, I was SCRRRRReaming at the TV- “Neither are YOU Benson. JFK LEARNED you cannot tax and spend your way to a good economy. It is a lesson YOU have not learned.”

Anyway.
You KNOW that this is a moment Biden wants to re-create. He is a nasty, lying, goof who will use every attack he can think of against Ryan. But my impression is, Paul Ryan is NO Dan Quayle. I certainly am entertained by Gaff-tastic Joe.

[workerbee]

Yep. The left is salivating for a fistfight after Obyebye’s no-show, and ole Joe will be primed to give it.

[buckalfa]

"Joe Biden is one of the best politicians in the country and will not be made the fool."

Agreed. Me thinks a lot of the Biden gaffes over the last four years were intentional, or useful in focusing attention away from events that could have been detrimental to the 0ne. Ryan is new to this type event and might falter due to his inexperience and hostility from the moderator. I do not expect a Romneyesque performance from Ryan.

[henkster]

Ryan needs to hammer the facts without sounding wonky. Biden should not be underestimated; he will be prepared. He knows there’s a lot on the line here. While he can’t compete on the facts, he will be prepared to come off as “folksy.” He won’t mail it in like 0bama.

The other problem is that this is the one and only VP debate, so it’s not topic specific. A huge advantage for Biden, as Ryan won’t be able to concentrate his preparation on specific topics. Biden will, as he will have all the questions in advance.

[KC_Conspirator]

Lets be serious...very few people vote for the Veep except for the last holdouts in your base.

[11th Commandment]

The VP debate is about the VEEP representing the President. Ryan needs to keep this in focus, since as the collective light bulb went off and now America knows, Obama’s record is indefensible. Romney approach was simple, you are lying about me but let’s talk about you..... this is what Reagan did in 1980....

[RoseofTexas]

I’m thinking the same thing! Don’t take this billy goat as an easy ride....He’s been around longer than Ryan and he did survive against Sarah who I think cleaned his clock, but still managed to look extreme VP material. DON’T UNDERESTIMATE the clown...he can devastate....RYAN please beware the trap the mediaWHORES are setting up for you. Uncle Joe ain’t too loony to debate..further from the truth. THE BEAST AIN’T DEAD YET! Remember God is our Source!

[SeaHawkFan]

Ryan is going to clean his clock, just like he did to Obama in that budget meeting.

[sanjuanbob]

Ryan could make Biden look like the idiot he is by using complex economic terminology that Biden isn’t aware of. Just a couple of words and Biden is toast.

[bigbob]

Biden doesn’t do well when he gets mad. If Ryan can keep his cool and not do the same (and he will surely be taunted), he will come across the winner on style as well as substance.

I think I could debate Biden just by managing to work one of his own gaffe remarks in to each of my answers, thus keeping the audience laughing at him instead of taking him seriously about anything.

[MNJohnnie]

I think the best we can hope for is a tie. Biden is a highly aggressive shameless liar who will be fanatically protected by the moderator. Going to be pretty tough to win a debate with someone who simply makes up their facts as they go along.

I think this is just part of the Mass Media set up for the big “Obama the comeback kid” spin we are going to hear after the Oct 16 Presidential Debate.

[dead]

I understand that we need to downplay expectations for the Veep debate.

And I understand that Biden must have some political abilities to have lasted this long in politics.

But I also know what my own lying eyes and ears have shown me of Joe Biden over the last four years - he is an idiot. A dumbass babbling moron. An absolutely clueless twit who has no understanding of the world and even less of an understanding of how he is supposed to perform his own rather limited duties.

If, as some say, he was ever politically savvy, he must have been eating lead paint chips off the wall at Cheney's house over the last few years.

[kingattax]

I think the best we can hope for is a tie.

all that positive energy and optimism might be a bit much for some people to handle.

seriously, regardless of your concerns, paul ryan is the wrong guy to be misunderestimating.

do you believe that a guy that was picked to be VP is someone that cant handle a toad like biden ?