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To: PaleoBob

You describe Communism perfectly. This is an idealogy meant for people with nothing going for them to ascend into a leadership role they’d never get without the lies and deceit. It’s how zeroburgers get elected president.

As for Obama’s origins, you got a good theory.

I got a better one. I have no links but this has been floating out there for a couple of weeks now.

Seems that back in the 60’s a bunch of Muslims began to filter money into the Illinois culture, all with an intent to groom angry young blacks...with prisons as just one target, into becoming Muslims, maybe starting churches that are really mosques...like say Revrund Wright.

Money poured into the corrupt Chicago political machine and folks like Valerie Jarret....she who has a very Iranian background.....got money and began to cultivate those deemed who will would be good political candidates.

Jarret’s power and taking Obama under her wing gave him a nice nothing job at college. Annenberg grants were also used to filter this money through to the community organizers.

All of the Illinois political scene was corrupted and infiltrated to a point that it was small matter to get the groomed and appointed presidential candidate in for a quick senate take, a speech at the DNC Convention...

All of the participants were in place so a George Soros was ready to throw down his bucks that he can get more oil money, Harvard became owned by the Sauds and it was small matter to squeeze a pothead Obama through that system with enough money and some affirmative action.

Jarret had enough contact with the Chicago scene that she found a good match for OBama, a half white black man who would not scare the white people across the fruited plains, who spoke without negro dialect, who would go on to have cute kids. Revrun Wright came on the scene to run Obamer and family through the black liberation theology.

Obamer his own self had been “mentored” by Frank Davis and had parents that hated America. He was properly schooled, handsome, of good speak....

Obamer’s leanings were covered vastly in the 2016 movie, of course. Left out was how he climbed through an active underground system been going on for years in this country.


167 posted on 10/07/2012 9:05:55 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

I like your scenario. Hangs together well. I buy it all except the “handsome” part. I have never seen this quality in the one. “Disarming” maybe but not my idea of attractive or handsome. Certainly not manly. Of course I gag whenever all the fashion mags rave about how stylish and lovely Moochelle is...

Also the pre-Chicago days, which are lengthy. His buddies at Occidental (who put him up) were Pakistanis. He is photographed seated next to one, I mean right next, on a love seat. This guy (Monsoor?) hosted him on a tour of Pakistan, and who only knows where else? Set him up with lots of Muslim backers which have carried him forward. He had enough Muslim cachet to impress them, and they put up enough walkin’-aroun-money to impress him, apparently for life, and much to our detriment.


174 posted on 10/07/2012 9:23:23 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Fishtalk; rodguy911; DanZ

Once again you are right in there where I go so often.I too see ozero as being influenced if not played by a communist influence although I was guessing teh Russians more than Cubans but what is the difference? Little if any.
Info is sketchy but there are small,short references to a black Manchurian played by guess who, which go back for years. And my take has always been they are true.
The Russians are famous for attacking from within,and its muzzie style as well.
So what we face in reality is a half black bi-sexual muslim with influences by black and white commies here in the US and who knows outside of the us.Financed, I believe, by mid-east money since college days...rodguy911


Seems that back in the 60’s a bunch of Muslims began to filter money into the Illinois culture, all with an intent to groom angry young blacks...with prisons as just one target, into becoming Muslims, maybe starting churches that are really mosques...like say Revrund Wright.

Money poured into the corrupt Chicago political machine and folks like Valerie Jarret....she who has a very Iranian background.....got money and began to cultivate those deemed who will would be good political candidates.

Jarret’s power and taking Obama under her wing gave him a nice nothing job at college. Annenberg grants were also used to filter this money through to the community organizers.

All of the Illinois political scene was corrupted and infiltrated to a point that it was small matter to get the groomed and appointed presidential candidate in for a quick senate take, a speech at the DNC Convention...

All of the participants were in place so a George Soros was ready to throw down his bucks that he can get more oil money, Harvard became owned by the Sauds and it was small matter to squeeze a pothead Obama through that system with enough money and some affirmative action.

Jarret had enough contact with the Chicago scene that she found a good match for OBama, a half white black man who would not scare the white people across the fruited plains, who spoke without negro dialect, who would go on to have cute kids. Revrun Wright came on the scene to run Obamer and family through the black liberation theology.

Obamer his own self had been “mentored” by Frank Davis and had parents that hated America. He was properly schooled, handsome, of good speak....

Obamer’s leanings were covered vastly in the 2016 movie, of course. Left out was how he climbed through an active underground system been going on for years in this country.....fishtalk


Just a couple points about these well-crafted posts.

I did not mean to imply that Moscow wasn’t the root point of origin in the making of Obama.

So-called “black liberation theology” was invented (as so much else was, like the PLO just to name one) in a basement in Dzershinsky Square, Lubyanka, KGB HQ.

It was originally crafted to give communist operatives a way into the Christian areas of Africa and the black church in America. It was done at a time when the KGB operated the Russian Orthodox church. After decades of trying to crush religions, Moscow Centre realized that church hierarchies and such were much more easily infiltrated and colonized than crushed.

So I’d just say the Chicago-Muslim axis that fishtalk references simply extends the unholy alliance as the great David Horowitz calls it.

Marxist agitation has all kinds of connective points with jihadis—al Qaeda head Ayman al Zwaheri has often been called- and has called himself a communist. And he was a creation of the Muslim Brotherhood at a time when Andropov was managing the murder of Sadat from Moscow Centre.

Andropov paid the Brothers $2 million for the job back then. Chump change compared to what Obama gives them today.

As for who paid Obama’s way through college, I’ve also heard that Billy Ayers’ father paid his way through Harvard law school—or at the very least got him in. I agree that the Saudis pretty much own institutions like Harvard—or think they do.

Also: it is CERTAIN that Billy Ayers ghost-wrote “Dreams” so there’s no telling how many connections there are there.

And it is also CERTAIN that Castro was the controller agent of Billy and Bernadine.

And, I learned that you only understand the 20th century altogether when you understand that Castro, like Arafat, was really just a high-profile KGB agent—because all the money and backing and weapons and such came from Moscow through various intermediaries and Bloc outlets.

I agree that Valerie Jarrett is a major player in all this, as fishtalk says. Probably only 10 percent of what matters about Jarrett is even known. She’s what Rumsfeld would call a “known unknown.” (I love that man. If I was a girl I’d marry him.)

Anyway, my final take on Obama is that he is the net result of a longterm influence operation launched long ago in Moscow Centre that enlisted thousands of aids even in the “Christian” and Muslim worlds—the culmination of the notorious Red Horizons KGB program that also created Arafat and was meant to “turn” the USA from within.

So—

Obama’s makers are dead, their base of operations fallen, their ideology disgraced and disproved in three-fourths the world... But you gotta give them credit. Their operations live on in perpetuity and are damn hard to defeat.


227 posted on 10/08/2012 7:10:24 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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