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And if you can't pay for Commiecare™, well, let's just say that you will pay for Commiecare™. Oh, and if its state-run, it ain't private.

NYT - 9/22/12 - California Takes On the Retirement Crisis

One of the advantages of the plan is that pooled contributions and professional management would reduce administrative costs and investing mistakes, which would boost returns beyond what most 401(k) investors achieve on their own.

The plan also calls for a guaranteed minimum return, via private insurance and reserves. That would be expensive, so the guarantee would likely be very modest, but it would ensure that all participants ended up with something, without requiring taxpayers to incur the risk of making good on investments gone bad.

1 posted on 09/29/2012 2:14:29 PM PDT by Libloather
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Yeah, this’ll work. [Chortle, snort]


2 posted on 09/29/2012 2:18:14 PM PDT by rbg81
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Reason 618 to run away from Cali.


3 posted on 09/29/2012 2:20:50 PM PDT by upchuck (I miss my dog Snoopy. May 16, 1997-September 24, 2012 -- 15 years, 4 months. Forever in my heart.)
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Run! Don’t walk away from this one.

It’s a sort of Mandatory, sort of optional thing ya’know. You get a chance to opt out every two years. How generous of them.


4 posted on 09/29/2012 2:22:22 PM PDT by The Working Man
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Says the board will choose a private manage or the state pension system..
No way they’ll choose private, this is just another ponzi scheme to prop up the hugely underfunded PEU system.


5 posted on 09/29/2012 2:24:45 PM PDT by rainee
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“”first state-administered retirement savings program for private-sector workers””

AND just why are they worried about the “private sector?” They have enough problems with their state worker’s retirement fund....

BAD BAD IDEA!!!


6 posted on 09/29/2012 2:27:59 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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I am sure this will work and then they can make it national too


7 posted on 09/29/2012 2:32:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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So, let’s see if I got this right: California is going to setup a retirement plan for low income workers (and illegal aliens), in a state that’s driving out business and productive workers, in a state that’s billions in debt, a state that has underfunded its public employee pensions that it cannot have a hope of paying, and put together by an assembly and governor that can’t stop taxing and spending? What could possibly go wrong?


8 posted on 09/29/2012 2:33:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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So...

You send in an amount, a small amount mind you, for the state to hold for you, only until you retire, where then they give it back. No doubt, in a locked box the whole time, with steinberg's and brown's fingermittens off of the stash, yeah, sounds invincible!

Got's to admit, they are getting creative in ways to get your money siphoned and funneled out of your pocket.

10 posted on 09/29/2012 2:34:19 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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Participants would also have to sign a liability waiver stating that California would not be liable for losses.
11 posted on 09/29/2012 2:36:30 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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State run is the opposite of private.


12 posted on 09/29/2012 2:47:01 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Good, then the state will control your retirement so you better tow the government line and do as you are told by government, like eating properly and voting properly....


13 posted on 09/29/2012 2:48:27 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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CalPERS could create a separate account for private-sector workers, although it's more likely to pool investments with public employees.

LOL! Ya, right. That money will become part of the General Fund ASAP.

17 posted on 09/29/2012 3:05:43 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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“The program directs employers”

What happens if the employer does not follow the directive?

How long until the “program” directs a matching contribution?

Many details missing.


18 posted on 09/29/2012 3:08:28 PM PDT by Selene
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Can't anybody do this right now? Without the government's "help?" I mean, put 3% of your pay into a stock fund or something.

Oh, I get it. This is a pension plan for morons.

20 posted on 09/29/2012 3:15:53 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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The program directs employers to withhold 3 percent of their workers' pay...

The thief who sticks a gun in your face and demands your wallet has more honor and integrity than these pukes. Seriously Jerry, just get prostate cancer or something.
21 posted on 09/29/2012 3:20:33 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Failtrain leaving the station! ALL ABOARD!

Obviously, this will never work. Before long, the 3% will become 6%, then 9%, then 12%, in order to cover administrative costs and to be able to deliver the fund’s guaranteed return...


22 posted on 09/29/2012 3:32:57 PM PDT by dinodino
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What a creative way to get a hold of money...Untill They spend that too.

Wonder who will fall for this scheme?


24 posted on 09/29/2012 3:38:25 PM PDT by HollyB
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All the pols are gathered round the money spigot waiting for the dollars to start flowing out. That money is already spent.


25 posted on 09/29/2012 3:42:18 PM PDT by moovova (Hey buddy, can you spare a tagline?)
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You haven’t seen riots until this Ponzi scheme falls apart.

House on fire, throw more gas. Yeah, that’s the ticket!


26 posted on 09/29/2012 3:43:15 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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Socialism really is a complete mental disorder. I just can’t believe that educated people can think like this.

Alas, Babylon.


27 posted on 09/29/2012 3:46:14 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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