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Which polls are, or aren’t, legitimate?
Hotair ^ | 09/26/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 09/26/2012 4:29:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: cardinal4
Yep, this election is Romney's to lose..

This election is ours to lose.

I think, more than anything, the media likes a horse race, rigged for their horse.

As a tactic, I think this has the chance to backfire on the media, in that, DumBO's constituency is less enthusiastic than they were, and, if they think it is in the bag, they may be less likely to show up.

41 posted on 09/26/2012 6:32:56 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: SeekAndFind
er...Polls are merely things to be FReeped, IMHO.

I don't answer telephone polls at work or at home. Period.
Same thing with any internet based polls asking for personal contact information. No, thanks.
I used to make a little bit of extra money by registering with a company that paid me to come in and give my honest opinion of various product marketing concepts.
Participants were heavily screened prior to being invited to any particular “poll”.
In my short stint as a volunteer at my local Republican Party HQ, I was the one asking the questions. I was not impressed by the quality of the contact lists, nor the attitude of their call center manager. She lied like a Union Boss.
The primary goal was obviously to identify potential financial donors.

After this election, I WILL change my political party affiliation to “Independent”.

42 posted on 09/26/2012 6:41:43 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
I used to make a little bit of extra money by registering with a company that paid me to come in and give my honest opinion of various product marketing concepts.

Focus groups, yes. I was a regular once, but they haven't been calling lately. You know what I discovered? The market research company was located on the third or fourth floor of a narrow city building. As we, the participants, collected our tax free cash, ate the cookies and chocolates and boarded the elevator down, I was hearing from my fellow opinion givers their true opinions, as often as not contradicting the opinions which they expressed in that room upstairs with a two way mirror wall and the microphones in the ceiling..

43 posted on 09/26/2012 6:46:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: patriotspride

Just posted about that too...
They were disgusting in their most pontificating, superior, smug, lib dim mode...
In weaker moments, I dream of meeting them in a bar someday, able to tell them what I REALLY think....


44 posted on 09/26/2012 7:12:56 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: sarasmom; LS; MNJohnnie

In the Hugh Hewitt show he had a guest come on and explain that pollsters are only getting a fraction of responses that they did in 2008. In particular, Pew had a 9% response rate. I googled 2008 response rates and the first pollster that came up had a 38% response rate. That’s only 1/4th of the total.

Take a look here: http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog


45 posted on 09/26/2012 7:27:26 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Only Rasmussen’s “likely voter” polls are accurate.


46 posted on 09/26/2012 7:47:09 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: CyberAnt

Even Ras should be taken with a grain of salt. There might be a D+1000 advantage in the populace, but Hugh Hewitt pointed out in his show that the response rates are way, way down.

Like, 1/4 of 2008 down with only 9% answering. My gut says that the people who aren’t answering aren’t a representative sample of the overall, thus creating skewed ideologies within the 9% who are answering.


47 posted on 09/26/2012 7:50:27 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: Cruising For Freedom; All

Well .. you can take “Ras” with a grain of salt if you want, but he’s the only one who hits the mark at the end of the election.

I just hope everybody is prepared for the onslaught of polls after the debate on 10/3. I expect the left will taunt us with over-estimates of how well Obama did .. and then try to show Obama ahead by at least 10 points.

Once a liar, always a liar.

I’ve decided I’m going to print out a sign, “Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire” - and place it just below my TV screen - that way I will always be reminded that Obama always lies.


48 posted on 09/26/2012 8:05:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

Yep, that makes sense. I suspect the pollsters are going to be scrambling after this election year to come up with new polling methodologies. Either all the standard political calculations about economics, unemployment, approval ratings etc no longer impact on elections or the pro Obama polling is completely wacked. One way or the other this election is going to teach us a lot about America’s soul.


49 posted on 09/26/2012 8:45:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Revolting cat!
LOL!

I didn't stick around to talk to the other participants afterwords, so I can't relate to what you experienced.

It does explain why I only got called in about four times a year.
I was getting paid for an honest opinion, so that is what I provided.

50 posted on 09/26/2012 9:02:33 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: SeekAndFind

“What about the Battleground states? Does Rasmussen have similar polls on each of them?”

Go here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard

Warning: you may not like some of the numbers you see.
(However, some may be out-of-date by now)


51 posted on 09/26/2012 9:16:15 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: matginzac

They were disgusting in their most pontificating, superior, smug, lib dim mode...


Agree. Kirsten comes off as an air head, especially when sitting next to Krauthammer.

A.B is a Martha Stewart clone. Every vowel pronounced perfectly. Realities described in an Alice in Wonderland scenario , where what you actually see isn’t what she is educating us on.


52 posted on 09/27/2012 8:05:51 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: patriotspride

Yep, knowing she is such a heavy smoker, i’ve often wanted five minutes with her to ask her abt Obummercare and why do the tax payers have to pay for her bad habit...
don’t mind the habit as long as it’s not done around me and I don’t have to pay for it.


53 posted on 09/27/2012 8:51:40 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Cruising For Freedom; All

It’s the “Silent Majority” .. the left thinks we have gone away, but they’re wrong; We’re still alive and kicking.

The left has no clue what’s going to happen on election day.

There was a great article the other day at the American Spectator, “How Carter Beat Reagan”. Of course, we know Reagan won .. and the story is how the NYT continually ran down Reagan, calling him all sorts of names (language which is very similar to what the NYT and the rest of the lefties are currently saying about Romney. In fact, it’s kinda weird to see how they are using the very same slogans that they used in the 60’s.

What the article shows is that from the beginning the NYT continued to POLL Carter higher than Reagan. That appears to be the very same thing we’re seeing currently .. while “unskewedpolls.com” is showing something very, very close to Rasmussen .. and Romney appears to have anywhere from a 7 pt lead to a 9 pt lead.

Rush mentioned the other day that he couldn’t understand why Obama was spending so much time in Ohio, since the media’s polling says Obama is ahead by 25 pts ..??

We cannot get discouraged .. let this article show you that the NYT is just doing what they always do and the polls which show Obama ahead may possibly be another great hoax by the NYT.

I also saw an article regarding one college campus, where it was a madhouse prior to the 2008 election .. but this time, there is hardly any activity for Obama on that same college campus today. Another good sign for Romney.

If there’s any chance you (or anybody you know) will not be available to vote on election day, go and vote early (in CA and other states), or get an Absentee Ballot and send it in as early as you can.


54 posted on 09/29/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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