Posted on 09/22/2012 3:05:03 PM PDT by Libloather
Vermont could be first in line for single payer
By JOANNE KENEN | 9/17/12 4:28 AM EDT
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Shumlin can’t get there by 2014. He may not get there by 2017, when states get more flexibility under the health law to design their own health care systems. He may not get there at all.
But he believes that even small states must aim big.
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The rest of the United States has no interest in single payer, of course, not now nor in the near future. Not only did the 2010 health law reject single payer or a public option, its rules and structures prevent a state like Vermont from going single payer, at least at the outset.
But Shumlin’s ready to go — and he doesn’t want the health care law to stand in his way.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
How long before they go bankrupt?
We should encourage all illegals and ghetto dwellers to move to Vermont!
I say let Vermont be Vermont. Soon they will be broke - just like California.
Vermonters want a socialistic utopia - go for it.
From 1856 until 1988—with the single exception of the 1964 LBJ landslide, Vermont always voted for GOP presidential candidates. Vermont elected its first post Civil War Democrat governor in 1962. Since then, the Green Mountain state has had 5 Democrat governors and 3 Republican governors.
Relative to its population, more Vermont men paid the ultimate price for their country during the Civil War than any other Union state. In 1936, Vermont joined Maine as one of two states that did not vote for FDR.
Vermonters affectionately refer to themselves as “Woodchucks.”
What has happened? Since the 1970’s, many conservative and GOP-supporting Vermonters have moved to the Carolinas, Tennessee, and Florida. Ultra-liberal Moonbats from megalopolis—especially gays—have showed up to replace them. The result: Democratic super majorities in both legislative houses and a snake oil salesman ultra-liberal governor, Peter Shumlin. The final Woodchuck diaspora will occur as meddling, confiscating socialist-medicine apparatchiks drive out more conservative Vermonters. Pray for Vermont. Pray that ObamaCare will be repealed. If Obamacare is repealed, Vermont may lose its federal funding for “ShumlinCare.” Go Romney!
Vermont has been trying to set up a single payer system for years now ... but they have been stymied by FEDERAL LAWS.
So much for State’s rights. Even a State which wants to go single payer cannot.
I support Vermont being able to set up it’s own health care system/laws.
What about the Constitutional and natural right of non-collectivist Vermont citizens to freely associate, to private property, to the sanctity of contract and as to any Medical Doctors who might be left in Vermont. Must they be made to live in and pay for the compulsory idiocy of single payer and not be able to choose physicians, patients and treatment decisions, a completely private system that provided the best quality care and the lowest costs up until the Feds intervened in the 1960s
What about the Constitutional and natural right of non-collectivist Vermont citizens to freely associate, to private property, to the sanctity of contract and as to any Medical Doctors who might be left in Vermont. Must they be made to live in and pay for the compulsory idiocy of single payer and not be able to choose physicians, patients and treatment decisions, a completely private system that provided the best quality care and the lowest costs up until the Feds intervened in the 1960s
I couldn’t have said it better myself, except to add in the fact that that the Cambridge MA elites that couldn’t get a real job have made VT the place they come to test all their progressive legal theories.
Vermonters have to get involved in State politics if they don’t want single payer. This is a State’s right issue and Vermonters get to decide. If you’re in the minority, that’s tough ... but it’s that way on everything.
The Fed should not be involved.
There is no “state’s rights” issue.
Individual citizens in a free state can not be told who to treat, how to practice, from whom they may receive medical care, nor the prices to be paid. Free people make these decisions for themselves and use their own funds to pay. The extent of the state’s role if at all might be reasonable licensing standards. Government involvement in medical practice violates the fundamental rights of every citizen. There is no rational ground for single payer, for any Government mandated or funded medical care laws or regulations. The reason health insurance costs $15,000 per year per family is because of government and other third party intrusion into medical practice. Government involvement always increases costs and if Vermont has to pay its own way it will face bankruptcy quickly with their delusional plans. Citizens who think it is or should be within the power of the state to coerce citizen behavior as to non criminal matters as important as medicine, need psychiatric help, which they should obtain and pay for themselves. Shop wisely.
Those Vermont citizens can MOVE.
They neednt move. They are freemen whose rights were purchased for them by Ethan Allen and God. The Constitution memorializes and sanctifies their freedoms.
No state no government no collective of any kind has any right to force freemen into a “system” that controls how citizens obtain medical care nor regluate how legitimate physicians practce.
Mr. Shumlin, former Governor and political freak Howard Dean and the rest of the invasive political locusts that have recently taken over Vermont, will be reckoned with soon by financial and moral reality. The components of civilisation are not free. Government lacks the power as well as the authority to steal and redistribute wealthy they have already destroyed or driven away. Vermont is a hard place when there is no money left, ask anyone who had to live there in the 1930’s. There are a few left. No happy ski trails, just cold and hungry. If you like getting medical treatments from mail order doctors, you’ll love single payer medicine.
What’s the smallest unit of government?
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