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1 posted on 09/18/2012 6:42:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Mitt Romney’s latest campaign setback”

Sort of like his Libya “gaffe”


2 posted on 09/18/2012 6:43:31 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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I’d like to “slag” the 47% too. How does one go about “slagging” somebody?


3 posted on 09/18/2012 6:46:25 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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Now show the graph with the earned income tax credit included to see whether the total net federal tax (income tax + payroll tax - EITC) is zero or negative. That would chew into the 28% who don't pay income tax but do pay a payroll tax.
5 posted on 09/18/2012 6:49:12 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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I may get blasted (nothing new :-)), but I know we are the party of lowered taxes, but we are not the party of no taxes. I think everyone should pay SOMETHING even if 5 bucks. It is sickening to me that 47 percent of the population are muchers.


6 posted on 09/18/2012 6:49:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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This article is wrong. We live on Social Security and our SS is taxed as income.........thanks to Bill Clinton. Every April we write a check to the IRS.


7 posted on 09/18/2012 6:49:28 AM PDT by agondonter
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And many of those "poor" make a racket out of it.

Earned Income Tax Credit for instance. Not a bad refund considering what they "didn't" pay.

EITC Guidlines

10 posted on 09/18/2012 6:50:50 AM PDT by Kenny
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But they pay payroll taxes, they pay payroll taxes scream the media. Well don’t payroll taxes go to individual benefits like social security and medicare? They certainly don’t pay for the defense or general welfare of the nation.


11 posted on 09/18/2012 6:51:45 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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Setback?

It makes me even MORE enthusiastic to vote for him.

I was not sure he was aware of these things, but I am glad to know he is.

So let me see if I have it straight MSM- Obama is the CAUSE of 47% of the people needing to be dependant on the government, but Romney makes a ‘gaffe’ by MENTIONING IT...???

Ok...


12 posted on 09/18/2012 6:53:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (Reagan: “Washington is where good ideas go to die.”)
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This is a case of watching the pea. Payroll taxes are essentially a forced saving program - everyone gets a % of their payments back, in some case the % is more than 100%. So the bottom line is that there remains a large % of folks who do not contribute via income taxes.
That said, I would have cautioned Romney from using this approach. Just ask Maggie Thatcher. Her poll tax, which is the natural implication of this line of argument, was an easy way to rally the disgruntled and demoralize the rest. Romney should avoid handing sticks to his opponents unless he is willing to follow through and go toe to toe with them. I certainly hope he has an answer when Barry throws this back at him in the debates.


13 posted on 09/18/2012 6:55:14 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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Everybody pays for regulations, costs of compliance, etc.

Those on food stamps would get more stuff if prices weren’t inflated by subsidies, tort lawsuits, environmental policies, etc.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 6:56:15 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Reading the comments after the article, some clown wanted to know from one of the other respondents if he would be happy if they (the gov) were to tax SS (benefits I assume). Uh, they (SS admin) hold out taxes on every check I get. I did this so I wouldn’t need/be required to file every quarter. I don’t want to file every year and surely don’t want to deal with these clowns every three months.

Helping keep mankind warm for 65 years.


16 posted on 09/18/2012 6:57:08 AM PDT by rktman
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Are people who pay payroll tax but not income tax going to think Romney was talking about them? Maybe not. And if not why would Romney’s statement bother them? This is just another distraction attempt by the LSM (imo).


17 posted on 09/18/2012 6:57:20 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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NOt all are slackers..


20 posted on 09/18/2012 7:01:03 AM PDT by dalebert
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Government spending on 'entitlements'. ↑


Total tax revenues collected by the IRS in 2011: $2,332,754 million and falling...


We are at that point where entitlement spending is about equal to total tax revenues - the problem is, that tax revenues are falling, while entitlement spending is rising.

There is no way to pay down the debt or pay for any other programs without debasing the currency now.

23 posted on 09/18/2012 7:02:38 AM PDT by Bon mots (When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...)
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I think this article has useful info,
Except once again SS and Medicare taxes are called ‘payroll taxes’ as if those funds government operations like military, roads, education, etc. food stamps, sect 8, endless. They dont even cover those entitlements anymore as both are running huge deficits.
Yet they never come out and specifically say that those entitlements are unrelated to those taxes, or should be since thats what they imply.


25 posted on 09/18/2012 7:03:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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What did Romney do?He told THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


26 posted on 09/18/2012 7:04:41 AM PDT by bandleader
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Hindsight being 20-20 I can identify exactly 3 mistakes that The Gipper made during his time in office.

1) Appointing Sandy Day “Affirmative Action should be fine for...oh, let’s say, another 26 1/2 years” O’Connor to SCOTUS

2) Pulling the Marines out of Lebanon and turning tail after the truck bomb.

3) Taking “low income” people “off the tax rolls”.

There were plenty of people at the time counseling him against #3.


27 posted on 09/18/2012 7:05:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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And how many of those paid the “payroll tax” got it back (and more!) as “Earned Income Tax Credit,” eh?


29 posted on 09/18/2012 7:06:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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The press is howling because they know Romney is right. There’s no other way to slice that pie. The bottom half of the population pay little or nothing in income taxes. That’s the reality. The liberal media is always hollering about wanting the “rich” to pay more income taxes. The top 50% already pay almost 100%. The top 1% pay close to 40% of all income taxes, the top 5% pay about 60%, and the top 10% pay about 70%. It would be hysterical if it weren’t so tragic.


31 posted on 09/18/2012 7:07:52 AM PDT by driftless2
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Those that pay payroll but no income also get a check that they never paid in the form of EITC, which can be a few thousand, which offsets any payroll tax they paid.

“Earned Income Tax Credit” was a vote buyoff of the poor created in 1975. Today, the credit can be $3,094 for the first child. $3,094 offsets a lot of payroll tax.


38 posted on 09/18/2012 7:13:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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