Posted on 09/09/2012 9:44:24 PM PDT by Steelfish
Mitt Romney's Ohio Problem By Z. Byron Wolf
ABC OTUS News - Mitt Romney's Ohio Problem (ABC News) Forget post-convention bounces - the numbers that really matter are in the battleground states, where President Obama's polling advantage is more concerning to Mitt Romney's team than any national numbers. No Republican has ever won the presidency without winning Ohio, and Romney isn't in a strong position to become the first.
According to ABC News' latest race ratings, President Obama is in strong position for 237 electoral votes, when leaning and solid Democratic states and combined. Mitt Romney has only 206 votes he can expect in his column, as of now.
Add in Ohio's 18 electoral votes, though, and Obama stands at 255 - within striking distance of the magic number of 270. Romney would need to win nearly every other battleground state - a list that includes Paul Ryan's Wisconsin, once thought to be safely Democratic - to pull out the presidency without Ohio.
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All I’ve done this evening is comment on a tactic I’ve seen many times where posters seem tp pop up in the same time sequence all saying just about the same thing. I’m not commenting on if the tactic makes political sense, or is smart politics....just that I’m seeing it, and I understand what it is. For all I know you just happened to use that “10 percent” figure off the top of your head, and that’s fine. But I have no doubt that there is an effort being made to depress he Romney voters on the internet. And that this effort is being run by some branch of the DNC.
Yet you refuse to retract.
Wow. You are, indeed, a baldfaced liar.
Baldfaced liar, why would anyone believe you about anything else? You refuse to back up or retract a simple claim.
You are a baldfaced liar. Nothing you say is meaningful, and probably is inaccurate.
To a certain extent yes. The Romney supporters need to be out there moving people to Romney's side. Instead, (at least in this thread) they've been calling conservatives and would be Romney voters LIARS and frauds (sort of like Obama/Biden did to their candidate).
I had a problem with some of the Palinbots insulting would be Palin supporters and throwing other Palin supporters off the Palin boat for simple disagreements and I see the same thing starting within the Romney supporters.
It's the candidate that needs to excite his base and brings others in.
Ultimately this is Romney's election to win or lose and the buck stops at him. If he loses, it's his defeat and his alone.
I see you posting multiple times in this thread, so I am answering every one of them. You are a baldfaced liar that makes a huge claim that only you seem to be privy to, but you will not back up your claim. BALDFACED LIAR.
LIAR. You make a claim, a huge one, and you will not back it up. You are a seminar poster and a baldfaced liar.
Good point. Let's try it.
Republican internals have Obama ahead by 5% points -- tsowellfan
Hey wait. You refuse to back up this claim, or retract it.
Wow, that means you are a baldfaced liar!
Nope. Liars lie.
A little more than a week ago I saw multiple posts from different sources that showed Romney up.
It never came to my mind that this could be pure disinformation from the Romney people. It never once entered my mind. My assumption was that it was recently released polling date and it was just trending.
There's a difference between issues that trend and an organized operation of disinformation.
Tornadoes in NYC trended last night. It never entered my mind that it was just an organized false story.
My point has never been who is up or down in the polls. My point is this: when I see several posters here, and at other sites using the same “talking points” then I suspect a political plant. Simple as that.
I'm surprised you did not put that "talking point" idea to sleep after realizing that there would be no logical benefit for the opposition to come out with a mantra that basically says: "my candidate should not be winning this election."
Not even Alex Jones would touch that.
I don’t care if it’s a fact or not. I did not address this issue. I questioned language & talking points that show there are “seminar posters” working on this & other conservative sites trying to depress GOP voting. I used to do this stuff for a living so it’s easy to pick up on it. It got you going that’s for sure....
“Also notice that Obama is running ads in states that he won handily in 2008, like WA state.”
Obama is also running ads in CA. He’s worried about CA? That speaks louder than any polls.
I think exciting times are ahead.
Hold on tight!
“Whew boy, the media has a theme the over last 24 hours, don’t they?”
You know, not for nothing, but for me today’s “all is lost” theme was started by Hinderaker over at powerline.
Maybe he’s on a journo-list?
Ohio could be a problem, though, I think that part at least may be real.
“All these polls tell me is that we’re not doing enough. Romney has to worry about getting moderate Dems. We’re still stuck arguing idealogy amongst ourselves.”
And the crux of the problem is this. Romney is so concerned about the moderate turnout that he doesn’t care at all for the base.
We should expect to see a repudiation of the ‘principles’ that he claimed to support in a bid to salvage his campaign.
The solution is not to run Romney if you want to win an election. The man lost vs McCain. The man nearly lost to Santorum. Are we surprised when his primary difficulties carry on over to the general election? He’s never been electable, he’s always struggled to win over the electorate. He is the nominee who has won the most primary states without becoming president on either party, by far.
So who should we have picked?If running Romney is bad cuz he lost to McCain how could any of the other GOP candidates be better? They all lost to Romney. Btw Romney was never close to losing to Santorum
Answer this: Kerry was a horrible candidate yet he barely lost in an economy with 3% growth, 5% unemoyment and stronger job creation than now, why? The answer isn’t Romney is lousy. Answer is America is now center left. 2010 might have been a fluke election like 1946 or 1982. We’ll soon find out.
Should Romney lose there will be serious introspection on the part of conservatives about what has happened to the American character.
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