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To: lymelady
Because that’s the one that passed, that’s the one that Romney’s talking about when he says he would keep some aspects of it...You can’t really win the presidency with a quote of “Yep, I want people with pre-existing conditions and college students under 26 to not have guaranteed access to health insurance.”

First of all, Newsmax has put words in Romney's mouth that he did not utter. It's a discredited "news outlet" with a penchant for inaccuracy that gives conservative press outlets a bad name. To me, this is the thrust of all my commentary on this thread.

Secondly, the two aspects of health care reform you've mentioned were also in Romneycare, but with restrictions. Since he was the architect of this plan, I think it's far more likely that the "health care reform" he's referencing, if he's really referencing something specific, is his own.

But I don't buy into that line of thinking. I think that since he's a businessman with extreme leadership qualities, he's looking at the implementation of "health care reform" as a problem to be solved with all solutions on the table, coming down strongly on the side of business. I think he'll have to favor free-market solutions to the problem, if only to draw distinctions between himself and the President's unpopular policy. I think he was trying to do that today, and I think he succeeded...which is why the mainstream media has picked up the "I want to keep part of Obamacare" angle...a blatant lie. It's an attempt to divide and discourage conservatives and depress Republican voter turnout.

And the trolls here are having a field day with it.

170 posted on 09/09/2012 11:11:16 PM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Chunga
I think that since he's a businessman with extreme leadership qualities, he's looking at the implementation of "health care reform" as a problem to be solved with all solutions on the table, coming down strongly on the side of business. I think he'll have to favor free-market solutions to the problem, if only to draw distinctions between himself and the President's unpopular policy. I think he was trying to do that today, and I think he succeeded...which is why the mainstream media has picked up the "I want to keep part of Obamacare" angle...a blatant lie. It's an attempt to divide and discourage conservatives and depress Republican voter turnout.

If you really think that then you do resemble the nutjob Ron Paul "out in left field" type of lunacy. If anything he was AGREEING (with the idea of the heathcare reform that is already law) with Obama after earlier making differences known between Obama and himself about jobs and the economy. The phrase, parts of heathcare reform that he will keep is specifically referring to Obamacare and if you cannot connect the dots then I need to ask if you are not truly a Ron Paulian/Dennis Kucinich delusional wingnut. SMH

172 posted on 09/09/2012 11:24:40 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Chunga

I am basing everything I’m saying off of watching Meet the Press. I pulled the clip up on New York Post just to be certain I was remembering correctly.

I think he’ll favor free market too, and I prefer his plans to Obamacare, but in reality he’s going to have to make concessions and ultimately we’re keeping Obamacare.

Meet the Press wanted to trap him into saying he either wanted to keep Obamacare or he wanted to hurt people. Romney skillfully used politician-speak to get out of it, partially by stating that he wants to keep some parts of what we call Obamacare. “So you would keep that as part of the federal plan.” “Oh I’m not getting rid of ALL of healthcare reform, of course, there are a number of things that I like in healthcare reform,” is in direct response to that “so you would keep that as part of the federal plan.”

He needs to distance himself from the word “Obamacare” because of the word “Romneycare.” He knows he can’t win the conservative vote if he’s associated with it, but voicing support for aspects of the federal plan does voice support for aspects of Obamacare no matter how you slice it.

Not necessarily a bad thing, since the piece of garbage was so bloated it actually does have some aspects of Republican health care reform slipped into it. And, he’s a very good liar. I’m sure he was lying to someone with that response. We can cross our fingers and hope that he’s lying in our favor.


191 posted on 09/10/2012 10:26:19 AM PDT by lymelady (A shield of lesser evil will only last for 4 years.)
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