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This was on Rush Limbaugh in regards to Romneycare and the individual mandate. Read what happened to this Mass. couple. Romney tried to say it only affected 8%. No, it affects everybody in Massachusetts, everybody had to. "In an earlier debate, Newt Gingrich underscored the point when he described a Massachusetts couple fined $3,000 by the state." Now, listen to this. I remember this, but this is true. This is factually correct. "Newt Gingrich underscored the point when he described a Massachusetts couple fined $3,000 by the state. They had health insurance, but it didn't meet the state's specifications. Lauren and Nick Destito had owned a tree and landscaping business for 25 years before the economy collapsed in 2008. They were forced to declare bankruptcy but still tried to abide by the state's health-insurance mandate, purchasing a policy that cost them $750 a month." They still tried to abide by state law while filing for bankruptcy. "No dice -- according to a government official, the amount of health insurance they can afford is determined 'not, unfortunately, from your perspective but from the state agency's view.'" You don't get to determine what policy you buy based on what you think you can afford. You have to buy what we at the state tell you. "After garnering national attention for their plight, the couple won on appeal. Mr. Romney's attempt to contrast his plan with Obamacare wasn't convincing. 'I don't like the Obama plan,' he said in Thursday's debate. 'His plan cuts Medicare by $500 billion. We didn't, of course, touch anything like that. He raises taxes by $500 billion. We didn't do that.' "These are bogus boasts: States have no authority over cuts in the federal Medicare program, so cutting Medicare never was an option with Romneycare. Massachusetts didn't raise taxes to finance its plan because it relied on previously enacted health-insurance taxes and an infusion of federal Medicaid money to finance its coverage expansion. The state simply passed a big share of its costs to federal taxpayers." Romney got to pass that along to taxpayers across the whole country. "Mr. Santorum challenged Mr. Romney on his claim that Romneycare is 'very different than Obamacare,' citing a new study that lists key features the two plans have in common, including the Medicaid expansion, an employer mandate and the individual mandate. The study is from the liberal Families USA, which credits John McDonough and explains he 'was deeply involved' in developing both Romneycare and Obamacare." This is one of Romney's advisers that we have mentioned to you that went to the Oval Office to help Obama put together Obamacare after helping Romney write Romneycare. John McDonough. "Among the key checkpoints showing the similarities between the two plans --" Are you sitting down for this, folks? Are you? Look at me. I want you to listen to this. "Among the key checkpoints showing the similarities between the two plans: 'Romney care authorizes "tiers" of insurance coverage, which are called Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Young Adult.'" http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/30/santorum_was_right_about_romneycare

“No, it affects everybody in Massachusetts, everybody had to.”

Look, I have no desire to get into some futile debate with you on this. Romney was long gone from MA when this couple had their problems, and Duval Patrick, a Dem, has been in there ever since. He has made extensive and expensive changes to Romney’s original healhcare plan for MA.

However, if you are so sure that Romney/Ryan are going to somehow establish MA Romneycare on a national basis, then don’t vote for them, vote for Obama/Biden and see if you will do better. Fat chance, and it will annoy the heck out of me that you will be taking me down with you, but it’s a free country, at least until you re-elect Obama.