Posted on 09/06/2012 8:24:18 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
Charles Lyell found his evidence when studying Mt. Etna in Italy. He returned to London in 1829 and wrote his most famous work Principles of Geology. The book included a large amount of data and very detailed explanations. He did not finish revisions on the book until 1833 after several more trips to get more data.
Perhaps the most important idea to come out of Principles of Geology is Uniformitarianism. This theory states that all the natural laws of the universe that are in existence now existed at the beginning of time. This was an idea that Lyell had first gotten from works by James Hutton. It was seen as the opposite of Georges Cuvier’s catastrophism.
http://evolution.about.com/od/scientists/p/Charles-Lyell.htm
“Plate tectonics can’t explain many of the geologic features we see today without sudden and massive movement —which the accepted paradigm doesn’t allow.”
Along with celestial impacts, what about polar flips rippling the global surface?
So Darwin and Lyell were both liars; Darwin it seems being the greater liar since his final product contradicted his own findings. Pretty amazing really, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised. All in the cause of what???
Well, there's that too. But it wouldn't necessarily even need to be a flip. A polar shift would likely create all manner of havoc. Or even the magnetic pole(s) wandering around for a while which some theories suggest has happened. Gotta also wonder how long our magnetic "shields" can decline in intensity before something unusual happens. As an added bonus, it looks to me the sun has all but given up on a solar max for this cycle. Very little activity when it should be at or very near a peak. The next ice age cometh??? Me, I dunno...
http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/G/bo3631234.html
The above book by Georges Cuvier is one I would love to read.
Darwin had to compromise I guess, that’s why his private journals are so interesting to read. It was Lyell who recommended him to take the journey on the Beagle, he couldn’t write what might basically contradict his patron.
Looking at your question again, I have to add, we can’t really call them liars, they did the best they could with what was available to them. If you read Darwin’s journals, I’m sure you will be filled with admiration as I am.
They don’t have the advantage of being able to update their websites!
It is kind of interesting though if you put the timeline together and see what sort of historical earth changes are depicted archaeologically, Biblically, mythologically, etc. every 3,600 or so years. The evidence that there were plants and animals on the continent of Antarctica points to some type of pole shift or tectonic shift. Then they go and find massive ancient buildings under the ocean near Japan... cities that I don't think they've ever found any record of historically or in the oral history. It just makes you wonder. I think it's totally possible that the Biblical flood could have been a tsunami or result of an asteroid or massive hurricane resulting from a climate shift.
Liars too strong a term??? Near as I can tell they were massaging or outright ignoring their own evidence to fit their pet theories. Not unlike much of what we see today with various pet theories. Liars works for me.
Your points are well taken. There seems to be evidence for a good deal of nastiness in historical times. Like I said in an earlier post, the most recent extinction event(s) seems to be the least studied — by mainstream science. Why? I could only guess.
Charles Lyell and Charles Darwin
Biography — Famous Biologists
Charles Lyell, (1797-1875)a famed geologist and paleontologist, namer of the Pliocene Epoch, befriended the young Charles Darwin and strongly influenced his thought. In particular, Darwin’s reading of Lyell’s Principles of Geology prompted him to think of evolution as a slow process in which small changes gradually accumulate over immense spans of time.
http://www.macroevolution.net/charles-lyell.html
A rather revolutionary theory at the time, considering the then ‘known’ age of the world. Six thousand years, was it?
:’) /bingo
Given that most of the Earth’s surface is water, most impacts probably occur there. The crater is temporary, but the evidence can be found, such as iridium from the Eltanin impact, and a sort of proxy impact crater on the ocean floor in the Arctic, perhaps from the impact which started the last Ice Age.
Not too surprising when you consider the fact that these ice age animals probably went south to avoid cold weather.
In another 10,000 years paleontologists are going to discover a boneyard (cemetery) full of American “snow birds” in Gudalajara, Chapala, and Ixtapa
http://cintos.org/SaginawManifold/introduction/index.html
These guys say the impact site was in Michigan, but agree with me that it hit the ice sheet!
Maybe God has a sense of humor? ;^)
Heh. Just a short hop for the "birds" from South Texas where they many tend to overwinter now. What's another few hundred miles??? But what will the bone diggers think of the all the RV's and stuff they uncover? Will they decice that these were nomadic hunter-gathers??? So many questions; so few answers. ;^)
A BOOK often cited here on FR includes a lot of detail tying the bays to an impactor "up north". Lots of technical stuff included that may a bit hard to follow for the layman; like me.
I’ve been studying it, kind of casually on and off for a few years.
At first, I thought the impact site was a bit to the west of Lake Superior, the object coming in from the NW, on a NW-SE trajectory.
Hitting the ice sheet, miles thick, therefore leaving no “crater” in the surface rock.
But these guys make a very convincing argument for Saginaw. Add to that that it matches what we see here, which are fields of crushed and intermixed bones in Mexico.
Whether they got struck by debris is immaterial. The shockwave alone would have pulverized them.
I presume you're aware the Mexico bones are a tiny part of what's been found around the world dating to roughly the same time period, the end of the Pleistocene. Alaska and the islands north of Siberia for example hold enormous bone yards.
Of course they will be called nomadic hunter/gatherers. After all, they will have religious tokens(U.S. coins) and artifacts such as movable homes called “Vans”, “RV” and “Suvs” , etc.) dragged by hand from the territory much further to the north where similar items are much more numerous.
Another branch of archeology will chime in that the artifacts prove that there was widespread trade between the inhabitants of areas known as Pan-Mexico and Can-America.
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