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To: PapaNew

“Again, the argument here is that we are saved by grace, not by works. The irony in this discussion is that Mormonism is all about works, not about salvation by grace only. And yet some Christians argue that because a born-again Christian might be a member of the Mormon Church, he must not be saved. So his work of being in the wrong church or doing the wrong thing keeps him from salvation. That’s a Mormon-esque works-based argument for salvation, not a Biblical one.”


That’s complete nonsense. What you are basically telling me is that a Christian can still be “born again” by denying Jesus Christ and embracing a perverted Gospel. Would you give this ridiculous premise to the Apostle Paul, too?:

Gal 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


86 posted on 09/04/2012 6:33:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

I think that the idea is that it’s possible to be saved by Jesus Christ while belonging to a Mormon ‘church.’ If you believe that he died and rose again to save you from sin and death. It’s just impossible to be a GOOD Mormon and Christian at the same time.


113 posted on 09/04/2012 7:38:42 PM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: RaisingCain
I thought this thread was about Romney responding to the DNC's removal of GOD and the omitting of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel from their platform. All of a sudden, it seems to be an argument about whether Romney, a Mormon, is a Christian. I believe the First Article to the Bill of Rights states that 'we have freedom of religion', and I do not think his religion should prevent him from being President should he win the election. I am not a Mormon, nor do I believe as they do. However, rather than judge them or criticize them, I find it a better use of my time to pray that they will accept the TRUTH as God presents it in the Bible.

I hope this scripture, Romans 2:1-16 will interest you...paying particular attention to the first verse: "Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things." I am not accusing you because I really don't understand your intentions, but I thought you might find some merit in these scriptures.

160 posted on 09/04/2012 11:50:14 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: RaisingCain
I said we are saved by grace, not by works.

You said That’s complete nonsense.

It's the Word of God and the heart of the gospel. Romans3:24, 28; 4:16; Galatians 2:26, etc, etc.

You said What you are basically telling me is that a Christian can still be “born again” by denying Jesus Christ.

I never said that. I said that there are many born-again Christians who are deceived but, "He that comes to Me I will in no way cast out" (John 6:37).

166 posted on 09/05/2012 3:33:29 AM PDT by PapaNew
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