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Yes, Paul Ryan Spoke the Truth About Obama's Fiscal Record at the Republican Convention
Forbes ^ | 8/30/2012 | Avik Roy

Posted on 08/30/2012 7:30:55 AM PDT by Qbert

Progressive bloggers and TV personalities are up in arms about Paul Ryan’s speech at the Republican National Convention last night. Several of their accusations revolve around Paul Ryan’s own fiscal record, and his description of President Obama’s. I asked my liberal friends on Twitter to send me an itemized list of Ryan’s alleged lies, and they kindly obliged. So far, Ryan appears to have the better of the argument.

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Dave Weigel of Slate compiled a useful list. (For a longer one, visit ThinkProgress.) Wrote Weigel, “Ryan plowed through one of the more impressive strings of whoppers we’ve seen at this level,” wrote Weigel. Here are his complaints, in order of importance.

Charge #1: Paul Ryan accused Obama of cutting Medicare by $716 billion, but Ryan’s own budget preserved those cuts.

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APOTHEFACT JUDGMENT: Ryan is correct. Ryan makes the appropriate distinction between improving Medicare’s solvency and cutting its spending to fund spending elsewhere.

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Charge #2: Paul Ryan criticized Obama for ignoring the recommendations of the Simpson-Bowles deficit commission. But Ryan voted against those recommendations himself.

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It’s true that Paul Ryan voted against the Simpson-Bowles recommendations. He did so because Simpson-Bowles raised taxes while doing little to nothing about health-care spending, the biggest driver of growing deficits. However, by rejecting Simpson-Bowles, Ryan felt morally obligated to put forth his own plan, and did so—several times, in the form of his Path to Prosperity and his 2011 and 2012 House budget resolutions.

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By contrast, President Obama scuttled a bipartisan Congressional deal to achieve long-term fiscal reform.

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APOTHEFACT JUDGMENT: Ryan is correct. Ryan’s credibility on deficit reduction is on the record, and has been endorsed by prominent Democrats. By contrast, Obama’s FY 2013 budget didn’t garner a single vote in Congress.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012rncconvention; obama; rncconvention; ryan
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To: austinaero
Yes, the left is spinning like that proverbial Maytag on crack that we keep hearing about. That’s a sure sign they feel the damage.

I must admit I had not heard that particular proverb but it's definitely a humorous one.

21 posted on 08/30/2012 8:45:45 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Qbert

The Janesville plant is not closed. It’s just that no one is working there and no vehicles are being produced...but it’s not close!


22 posted on 08/30/2012 8:46:23 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Puppage

Don’t waste your time on her garbage and dump her as a friend. She is your enemy and is spewing nonsense in an attempt to completely eliminate your individual liberty.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 8:52:38 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Puppage

Ask her how a President “institutes a constitutional ban” on anything? If she is referencing a constitutional ammendment, then it would require a 2/3rds approval in both houses and then ratificatoin by 2/3rds of the states.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 8:54:54 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Puppage
Just show your friend this sign of the Islamic get together at the DNC this weekend. Then tell her she won't have to move to Afghanistan as the Democrats will bring Afghanistan to her.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 9:30:35 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Puppage
For the sake of argument, let's assume the premise is true. If you understand the precepts of the constitution then you'll understand that the Executive Branch cannot amend (change) the constitution. Even should the proposed amendment garner passing support of both houses of congress by a 2/3 majority, because it is a modification to the “Constitution of the United States”, it must then be ratified by a 3/4 super-majority of the states themselves. Article V of the Unites States Constitution
26 posted on 08/30/2012 9:36:02 AM PDT by Senior Chief (Here I am, right where I left myself.)
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To: Puppage

Just explain how very difficult it is to amend the Constitution. Does she really think three-fifths of the states would vote for this?


27 posted on 08/30/2012 9:38:11 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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Erskine Bowles – Paul Ryan Is Amazing

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28 posted on 08/30/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Puppage
So, they are saying that if a woman gets raped they are going to force her to have the baby if one is conceived?

Liberals always decry violence when it's convenient to them. An abortion after a rape is just violence against another innocent. A rape victim knows first hand the horrors of violence perpetrated against a innocent person, and yet rather than promoting empathy, mercy, or compassion, the left says "pay the violence forward". "That hurt you feel won't go away until you hurt someone in response."

Liberals are such compassionate people.

29 posted on 08/30/2012 1:28:36 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Puppage

Let me add one more thing, and this one you can actually use as a response to your left friend.

After you let her know about the process to ammend the const, then you can tell her that there is a way to ban abortion immediately. All it takes is creating a 15 member board to approve all medical procedures, making sure the members are not elected and instead appointed by the President. Then all we have to do is make sure that panel is stacked with 8 members that are pro-life. After that, the board can simply deny abortion as a medical procedure.

Ooops, her Obamacare did that! Now all we need is to pack the board that is scheduled to be fully implemented next year.


30 posted on 08/31/2012 8:48:46 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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