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Is the Christian Right poised to re-elect Obama?
Tea Party Tribune ^ | 2012-08-29 10:12:50 | Ken Crow

Posted on 08/29/2012 5:59:53 PM PDT by tselatysr

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To: ScipioAfrica us; BlackElk
When you have power then you can chip away on the social issues but do NOT campaign on them.

I married a Canadian and spend plenty of time there.

The political dynamic is MUCH different, as social lefties in Ontario, Quebec and B.C. swamp the better parts of Canada.

In many areas, a conservative MUST make it clear that he is a social conservative in order to win. The Reagan Democrats of 1980 did just that. I know a number of blue collar families who couldn't stand George Bush the Elder, but held their noses because he campaigned as a pro-lifer.

In the states, even Bernie Sanders, the SOCIALIST Senator from Vermont follows the NRA line on guns. The folks a few miles north couldn't even imagine doing so.

We are NOT a parliamentary system, and parties are not recognized in the U.S. Constitution. These things give us a unique fabric.

By the way, in the last election in Alberta, Danielle Smith completely blew a BIG lead for the Wildrose Party by going left on abortion and the homosexual agenda.

Conservatives know it is NOT just about the money. When the Republicans pretend that it is, they give us Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Romney will probably win, and then he will leave mold the Republican Party in this country along the same lines as he did in Massachusetts, leaving it a smouldering pile of ruins.
81 posted on 08/29/2012 7:18:31 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to watch you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Aria

My province is Saskatchewan and I have lived most of my life under the jackboot of the Godless socialists and in a poor province . A little over 4 years ago we finally got a conservative busines friendly government and we have had nothing but economic growth since. We have effectively full employment through this economic downturn ,population growth and
Increased opportunity.


82 posted on 08/29/2012 7:23:43 PM PDT by ScipioAfrica us (ScipioAfrica us)
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To: tselatysr

HillaryRomney is in there for one reason, to bailout the Exempt Ones, who refuse to sleep in the bed they made themselves, while attempting to force everyone else but themselves in.

It’s no mistake that there is very little, if none at all, push that everyone is going to get an Exemption. Instead an insidious deception “replacement” , and not exemptions for all WE THE PEOPLE.


83 posted on 08/29/2012 7:28:29 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Unam Sanctam
"For the general, everyone must pull together and throw out the Marxist for the good of the country."

I'm going to throw out Obama and put in the Father of Obamacare and the Father of gay marriage? Why would I do that?

I have no intention of voting for either of those two. "For the good of the country."

The Republicans in the House and Senate are just going to have to stand up to Obama. They won't stand up to Romney.

84 posted on 08/29/2012 7:30:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ScipioAfrica us
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your post:


85 posted on 08/29/2012 7:37:13 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: txrefugee

>The GOP decided

1) dems in open primaries
2) the eneMedia
3) those who did not vote in primaries

... they decided.


86 posted on 08/29/2012 7:46:27 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Where was all this hellfire and brimstone at the primaries?

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In the circular firing squad.


87 posted on 08/29/2012 7:46:44 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: ScipioAfrica us

This is America, if we supported you agenda of dropping social conservatism, then we become liberals, the left with better tax policy, no thanks.


88 posted on 08/29/2012 7:47:15 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Dr. Sivana

I realize there are differences between a parliamentary and republican system. My family heritage has deep American roots going back before the civil war. I have a number of first cousins in the US.

25% of our members of parliament come from Quebec. Imagine if 25%
of your electoral college was elected by Frenchmen . Even with that disadvantage Prime Minister Harper won a majority and is slowly strangling the Liberal institutions which support the Left.


89 posted on 08/29/2012 7:48:05 PM PDT by ScipioAfrica us (ScipioAfrica us)
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To: publius911
“I'd rather refocus my energies to attack Romney relentlessly if he embraces the ‘Ol’ Boy’ network.”

Look, my vote will be useless here in NH. NH is slated to vote for Obummer again and my vote won't count anyway, so I might as well vote for someone who aligns closest to my political views.

If Romney wins, do you really think that Romney will turn into a conservative or be pressured to run the country that way?

He didn't when he was Gov of Mass and he won't when President. Conservatives just got their asses thrown out of the convention with the rules change and will have no say in how gov’t will be run.

Bonehead will again be the Speaker and whats-his-face might be the Senate Majority leader. I don't think many here at FR believe with those two at the helm along with Romney will govern conservatively, but will compromise with the liberals in order to get a few kind words written about them in the NY Times or WP.

We are in a no-win situation.

90 posted on 08/29/2012 7:49:05 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: tselatysr
While all is fair in politics and other forms of warfare, shaming and blaming people into voting for a candidate is about as weak and utterly shameless as it gets.

If Romney loses, if obama wins, it's because Romney and the GOPe couldn't convince enough voters he's better than obama and/or possibly ensure a fair election, but don't let that stop you from blaming voters for just not getting it.

The GOPe is just like obama, blaming everyone and everything but themselves, for their candidate, their record, and their party.

Alinsky here, Alinsky there, Alinsky tactics everywhere...well, FO! That blame and shame the voter shite doesn't work here. Losers.

Sell! Sell! SELL your candidate and your ideas or (you'll) go home.

91 posted on 08/29/2012 7:52:32 PM PDT by GBA
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To: ROTB

I well remember the tastes great/less filling duel that went on between Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich partisans, for instance. When either one would have been more palatable to all than Mitt is. Mitt could have had a great place in a conservative administration (with a financially related appointment, say secretary of treasury) but now Mitt is heir apparent to the whole enchilada, social AND economic. Mainly, because the herd of cats never united on any of the more acceptable choices. Blame the GOPe and media all you want — they did not glue 90% of the electorate to their sofas during the primaries.


92 posted on 08/29/2012 7:53:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Unam Sanctam

Ryan is almost through speaking. His entire solution to the economy is to reduce government spending, tax fairness, and reduce regulation.

That’s not what is wrong with the economy. They don’t have any more clue than Obama. Idiots. They are this election’s hope and change candidate. Change leadership and it’s got to get better. But a comprehensive plan they don’t have, because they haven’t identified what’s wrong. They think government overspending is the only economic problem.


93 posted on 08/29/2012 7:54:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Anything that eases the onerous hand of government upon a free enterprise system makes it easier for said system to do what it always has — accommodate the problem and find a way to recovery.


94 posted on 08/29/2012 7:56:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: CapnJack

Mitt is less-lose. The golden chance — the primaries — is over. Well and truly fumbled.


95 posted on 08/29/2012 7:58:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: pgkdan

You’ve grown a lot, now the conservative base are “puritanical know nothings here in FR” to you.

I am so glad not to be a member of Mitt Romney’s party, it seems like you guys are having issues.


96 posted on 08/29/2012 8:03:56 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: DannyTN
reduce government spending, tax fairness, and reduce regulation

It's a good start. I suppose unlimited Keynesian borrowing and spending and confiscatory taxing of business, i.e., Obama's plan, is more desirable?

97 posted on 08/29/2012 8:07:26 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: tselatysr
This tselatysr guy is just a troll anyway, he doesn't read or respond to anyone, he posts and runs.
98 posted on 08/29/2012 8:07:42 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: tselatysr
I would encourage you to stop this diatribe against Romney. I realize you wanted someone more conservative, but at present that is not the case. Remember this; If we have no America, we will not be able to send that candidate up that we all seek in the future. Because my friends; That is exactly what is at stake. When you and the Paul Bot's all decide to write in that candidate, it is in fact a vote for Barack Obama.

Yes, because the truth is just so inconvenient when you trying to elect a Pro-Abortion, Pro-Gay Agend, Big-Government Pretend Republican.

Oh, and I really enjoyed the fallacy of you being a Tea-Party member and using the thread-bare Chicken Little the world is ending excuse for violating all of our principles to elect someone who has nothing in common with conservatism.
99 posted on 08/29/2012 8:08:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: tselatysr

Whoever wrote this sounds like a concern troll. They claim to be a Christian, but are using phrases like “The Christian right” and misrepresenting what the opposition of Romney is all about.


100 posted on 08/29/2012 8:09:03 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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